[WTB] Debug / Yaroze Playstation 1

Hey all,
I'm looking for a Yaroze / Debug Playstation 1. I don't really know what's the difference between these models to be honnest (except they have a different color !), what I'm looking for is a european Playstation that would be able to run PAL & NTSC games but also backup games (nothing illegal !!!), as a modded PS1 would do I suppose ?...
If you have such a console for sale, please send me a message ! Thanks for reading !

 

Buy a Debug playstation only for play Pal\Ntsc and backup games it's a BIG waste of money, IMHO!
Better Buy a retail PSX already chipped or modchip one.

 

Yes, you're probably right, depending on the price you pay I suppose. This is also just an item I would like to own, it happened that I bought items I'm not using as they were made for at the beginning. I've bought a modded PS1 yesterday (not a joke !), I hope I'll get it by the end of next week... want to try this bloody Resident Evil 1.5 recent release (so many bugs that you can't really play more than... 3 minutes !!!).

 

In my country a retail fully working console cost max 30€, but It's not only a question of price.
IMHO Debug console are absolutely not recommended for playing (they suffer of heat and premature laser wear) or coding (yes, emulators nowdays are better and you don't use a deprecated system with win 98 and other obsolete tool\hw for coding\debug feature).
They are only good for collection and exposure purpose

Btw good luck with request

 

Well, thank you for these tips ! I've read that early laser unit degradation could happen if you don't use black discs (as the retail discs) but I didn't know about overheat problems. That's easy to guess how difficult it must be to have such a system repaired in the case of a problem !!!
I've paid 45€ for a modded PS1 -eBay France- (including P&P), like new condition, with box and everything you can find in the box when buying a new one. I'm still wondering how much money I could pay to get this black or green PS1 but I agree with you that they are mainly for exhibition purpose and not for an normal use. Taking this in consideration (and also the fact that PC emulators could roughly make the same job !), I still can't understand why some people propose such consoles for $500 (eBay.com)... This is (very) far from the price I'm ready to pay, what's your opinion about a suitable price ?
Thank you for your advice, it's very appreciated !

 

Most Debug PS1s have an external PSU which reduces heat, so I can't see why they would have heat issues..

 

Emulators are ok, although none of them are perfect. I especially wouldn't use one exclusively for development or you'll be disappointed when you finally run your software on a real console.

A full yaroze set should be about $300, a bare debug console about $150. Getting a good condition debug console is hard, they weren't well treated by the developers. Some of mine have writing in permanent marker like "QA Department" etc plus asset stickers. I would say that this would add more to the value, but others might disagree

The debug consoles that are on ebay for $499 are never going to sell for that price, unless they can find people with more money than sense.

 

For Gaijira :
I've never opened a Playstation and if I consider what I can only see at the moment, both 'fat' classic retail unit and Debug unit seem very similar... Personnaly, I've never had any problem with my Playstation but please note that I never spend several hours playing, *cough*... not so often ;-)
For smf :
Prices you're giving me seem more realistic than what I've seen in some places !... I'm looking for a very clean unit (exhibition VS programming), with nothing permanent written -or engraved !- on it. I suppose that's going to be a very long job but I'm used to that kind of search !...

 

PSU it's not the sole heat cause of the problem

 

OK, so at the end of the day, is there any model more reliable than another one ? Please keep in mind that I live in France, power supply is 220V and TV sets are 50 Hz. As they both read PAL, NTSC & CD-R discs, would I be able to run either the green model DTL-H1202 or the blue model DTL-H1101 ?

 

Some of the debugs can't run in 50hz. Even an xplorer running in 50hz won't work, it stops producing video & I think the console stops running (it might stop producing vblank interrupts rather than stopping the cpu, I didn't fully investigate it). You can take the risk or get a PAL one.

The blue and green consoles are available in pal or ntsc, there are also two types of blues. It goes like this:

blue with internal power supply (DTL-H100x)
blue with external power supply (DTL-H110x)
green with internal power supply (DTL-H120x)

The last number is 0 for NTSC/J, 1 for NTSC/U, 2 for PAL. Some retail consoles end with a 3, I've never seen a debug like that. It's for Asia and runs Japanese games, but at least some of them have an American bios.

The green consoles should come with the later graphics chip, while at least the DTL-H100x could come with the launch one that has problems with shading in some games.

 

Region stuff: xxx0 is for Japan, xxx1 for the US and xxx2 for Europe
See here for details: http://lorezan.free.fr/ps2/DTL_Archive_rev.4.xls

 

Oh, thank you for these explanations smf, that's very clear in my mind now ! I've also had a look at the sheet given by unclejun and I must say that I find it quite interesting...
I suppose then that the most interesting model for me would be the green DTL-H1202 PAL 220V 50 Hz

 

Hey,
I'm still looking for this Debug / Yaroze european PS1 (DTL-H1102 or DTL-H1202), I found different units listed on eBay but prices are really crazy... I still think that I should find it here at the right price. If you've got such a unit for sale, please get in touch !...

 

A Yaroze won't play backup / CD-R games, only multi region.

 

sounds like you want it for other than playing.
then you may need to prepare to lay down what's the market value.
I paid more for green debug as well as yaroze but for playing games I use my old trusty retail ps1 I chipped eons ago~ ^ ^

 

Thank you corranga (!), I didn't get so many informations about the Yaroze model before you wrote this, and I really need to play CD-R games... this is a major information !

I don't have programming skills and I don't intend to get involved in games creation, I can clearly say that I would buy a Debug PS1 as many other people would buy a modded PS1. That can be considered as a big waste of money (see upper master991 reply), I do agree with this...
About the price to pay for a Debug PS1 (that's for dj898), I'm watching out sales on eBay.co.uk at the moment and wait for the right moment. If I can't find a Debug unit then I'll see if a Debug PS2 wouldn't be a better choice ?...

 

if I were you I'd get the cheap PS1 with chip to play CD-R while keep an eye on the eVilBay for the debug PS1 at the right price. ^ ^
that way you will have the backup PS1 that you can thrash around too

 

Yap dj898, this is exactly what I've done !... eVilBay ?... Ohhh, I mainly met nice sellers on Ebay (particularly on eBay.co.uk)... but there are also odd people !!! ;-)

 

Bump ! Still looking hard for this Debug PS1. I'm looking for the DTL-H1202 (prefered) or DTL-H1102. Won't put £300 in the job...