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WTB: MP3 Player, ~120$, ~1-2GB

Discussion in 'Want to Buy Requests (WTB)' started by liquitt, May 23, 2006.

  1. liquitt

    liquitt Site Soldier

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    Alright, I'm searching for a good MP3 Player for about 120$...should have atleast 1GB memory, none of those USB Stick bitchy things please. I've seen the Olympus m:robe for 100€ on ebay but somebody was faster...so if anybody can help, please answer :)
     
  2. Evangelion-01

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    get a mobiblu cube, they are small and nice, 1gig.
     
  3. Joe Sancho

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  4. Tachikoma

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    I just sold one of them to get my Ipod Video, they are really good but be warned, don't format it, chances are it's a 512mb/1GB that has been compressed. It doesn't do playlists which pissed me off, and why I sold it, and other than the stupid small headphone jack it's otherwise perfect.
     
  5. Alchy

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    Compressed? You mean it downsamples your audio when you transfer it over, and you can't just copy MP3s onto it?
     
  6. Tachikoma

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    No, I mean the chips inside may not be 2GB, and if you format the player, you might end up with a 512MB player instead of a 2GB player. Some of the earlier ones were like that, so don't be tempted to do it unless it's really b0rked.
     
  7. Alchy

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    How does that work? Either there's 2gb of space or it's doing some compression. There isn't any method of compressing MP3 audio by 50% or 75% without some major noticeable loss in audio fidelity.
     
  8. Tachikoma

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    FFS, thats what I have been saying, the storage space might be xGB but the chips could be half that and they have been compressed. If you format the player, you lose the compression so can end up with an mp3 player a lot smaller than what you thought you had paid for.

    Am I speaking in tongues or something?
     
  9. ASSEMbler

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    Try to find one with a philips sound dsp, the sound I find is superior.

    Rich sound.

    Until I got my ipod video, sound off an ipod was unacceptably bad, the bass broke up, and
    it was tinny.

    I am a music nut so I'd say a 30gb ipod video, or something with a philips dsp.

    Avoid iriver, the sound is horrendous,
    Sandisk the sound is flat

    the samsung is decent, a 512mb at best buy with a color screen /jpg is not too much money.

    Avoid the nano, I had nothing but problems with battery life, the screen scratching like soft butter (worse than the first release advance!).

    The video part of the ipod video I almost never use, but it's nice for trips. The battery life is excellent as well.
     
  10. liquitt

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    got a Philips HDD0070something 2GB, good one! :)
     
  11. Alchy

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    Don't get stroppy. My point was that there isn't any form of compression that can fit 2gb of audio into 512mb without noticeably dropping audio quality, and I was wondering how they were doing it since you'd already said it wasn't being downsampled (which, since you seem to be unaware, is the only real way to compress audio that's already been encoded to a reasonably efficient level like MP3). There isn't some magical form of compression that will take 2gb of MP3s and turn them into 512mb without seriously losing quality, and more to the point if the device shows up in windows as a drive as 2gb it's 2gb, compression doesn't come into it. The only way it could is if the player requires specific software to write to it which does some strange and highly lossy form of compression on every MP3. It's far more likely that formatting fucks the device up in some way so that only 512mb show up. I was trying to figure out if this was the case or if it really did have some weird compression thing going on.

    Feel free to ignore what I'm asking and have a go instead, though.
     
  12. Tachikoma

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    Take a look on the s1mp3 forums, they are the eggheads that discovered it, ask them.
     
  13. Alchy

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    Ok. The manufacturers are making some of them show up as 2gb when really they're a lot smaller. Nothing to do with compression.

    To be honest, I wouldn't buy one, especially not if it's getting shipped from China. The cost of returning it wouldn't be worth it.
     
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