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WTB: Sega Saturn Dev Hardware

Discussion in 'Want to Buy Requests (WTB)' started by WarHampster, May 15, 2008.

  1. WarHampster

    WarHampster Robust Member

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    Hey everyone! As the title says, I'm looking to buy some sega saturn dev hardware to add to my collection, and play around with development on. Specifically, I'm looking for a either a CartDev system, or a PSY-Q dev kit (I've heard that Sophia Systems are a pain in the ass to get working). If you're willing to sell a working model of either dev kit, please PM me. As for the price, you name one and then we can negotiate.

    As for shipping, I'm located in the US (Connecticut). Also, as this would be my first purchase form ASSEMbler, here's a link to my ebay feedback: http://myworld.ebay.com/wavelandhomerun/ . I haven't been very active, but I do have all positive feedback :).

    Thanks!
     
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    WarHampster Robust Member

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    Buyatari Well Known Member

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    What are you paying for this stuff?
     
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    Paulo PoeticHalo

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    Please conduct your sale through PM or post an item for sale with a price.
     
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    Buyatari Well Known Member

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    If you post items for sale you need to post a price so by the same logic if you are looking to buy then you should post a price as well
     
  6. Paulo

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    If your selling you need a price but if its a WTB post you dont. However any replies with someone wanting to sale an item will need a price.
     
  7. WarHampster

    WarHampster Robust Member

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    Oh well, I'll do it anyway :p.

    I'll be willing to pay somewhere around $100 for some type of saturn dev kit.
     
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  8. Calpis

    Calpis Champion of the Forum

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    How about a PAR?
     
  9. WarHampster

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    You mean Pro action replay? Thats not exactly a dev kit, is it?
     
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    Calpis Champion of the Forum

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    What is your definition of a dev kit?
     
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    But what makes them dev kits to you? A PAR is just as capable of uploading code, interrupting control and thus quickly cycling through builds so it's more than adequate to "play around with development on". In fact, you'd be hard pressed to think of a commercial feature that couldn't be implemented. Your development success will directly correlate to your own knowledge, experience and aptitude, not the equipment you obtain. Collecting is one thing but don't kid yourself into thinking game development can be learned through osmosis.

    Besides, honestly $100 is far insufficient for obtaining a remotely complete SNASM or Psy-Q set, but it is enough to obtain a PAR and Comm link card or USB interface. Also unlike the commercial setups you'd actually be able to get support from the homebrew community, absolutely necessary today without legitimate Sega support.
     
  13. Mark30001

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    Dude, everyone knows it's a lot cooler trying some dev on official hardware versus homebrew hardware (DC Dev Box vs. coders cable/BBA) :110:. Besides, I don't think anyone asking for official dev hardware actually plan on creating games, lol.

    Who knows, WarHampster may even want to start up a site focusing on Saturn dev hardware (since not that much information is even out there), so don't discourage him!
     
  14. ASSEMbler

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    I'd say a complete setup is well north of $700 these days, if not $1000 given the u.s. dollar is worthless and all of our european friends driving up the prices for us.
     
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    I'll just wait until one pops up on ebay or someone is selling one here.
     
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    retro Resigned from mod duty 15 March 2018

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    Hi mate,

    Firstly, thanks for providing relevant info - so few people do nowadays ;-)

    OK, on to the nitty gritty....

    A complete Sophia kit... forget it! That would cost a LOT of money and take a LONG time to track down. Trust me! I have the Target box, Graphics box, Sound box, ICE and the relevant software. Even if you had that lot, it is indeed very awkward to use!

    Complete CartDev, with the PSU, NMI cable and software and manuals - very tricky to get, very expensive. Still WAAY over your budget. And forget about the rev. A version - it sucks!

    Complete PsyQ (by which I mean the cart, SCSI card, cable, software and manuals - sod the machine, a retail will do, although it'll add some features such as VCD emulation and country codes)... obtainable, but it'll cost you a LOT more than $100.

    If you're looking for this to code with, and it sounds like you are, here's what I'd suggest:

    1. Get an Action Replay with coder's cable (whichever type)
    2. Get the homebrew software that's available
    3. Get on the Sega dev forums
    4. Learn SH2 assembler and how to program the two chips - you'll probably need it!

    Seriously, the AR method is the way to go for the hobbyist coder within your budget. Also, you don't have to worry about any legal implications, you don't need special or modified hardware, and you'll find there's plenty of help out there.

    Be warned - it is NOT an easy console to program, certainly not the best choice for learning. If you have your heart set on it, though, go for it!! We'll eagerly await the results ;-)
     
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    I'd say the AR method is great.
     
  18. WarHampster

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    I didn't only want a dev kit to code with, I thought it would be a nice addition to my collection. Thanks for clarifying how expensive they are, I'll take your advice and buy a action replay and link cable.
     
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