Xbox 360: Project Natal - Good Bye Wii

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  1. Xeveniah

    Xeveniah <B>Site Supporter 2013</B><BR><B>Site Supporter 20

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    Now this is just from experiances with tv's... I am guessing we would want the camera capture rate to be 240hz and up for natal to be truely worthwhile?

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    ? Eh

    Really 60hz and a low comp time would be ideal (i think it's currently 14-16ms spread across all 3 cpu cores to decode the image the camera returns, based on ces info).

    Nobody really is going to move fast enough to make a huge difference but in using natal, you're going to be stuck with a game at 30fps or a 60fps game that only samples input at 30hz. That kind of sucks balls.

    I also makes me question how well natal is going to be with determining a person's movement speed vs just knowing their current pose.
     
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    Barc0de Mythical Member from Time Immemorial

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    They should have kept Natal for the next round as many pointed out. The XBOX is way ahead in terms of quality games compared to the competition for its type of market share and they should stick to what they know works best for them.

    Natal, in its watered-down version, is akin to an expensive eyetoy. If they really wanted to make it an integral part of the experience they'd bundle it with a more powerful machine.

    Games like Viva Pinata could benefit from gestures etc with some modifications, and apparently due to the overhead, most existing games won't be able to co-exist with Natal currently.
     
  4. Herman

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    I just find the whole thing funny actually :lol: All those Nintendo Wii bashers are now embracing motion control on the XBox 360 with Natal ? There's no stopping Nintendo at the price Wii can had with Wii Sports ($199). And with a new Zelda and Metroid title coming before the end of 2010 Natal better be pretty damn spectacular. Good luck !
     
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  5. Herman

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    The fact Microsoft is cutting cost on the Natal peripheral is so suspect. We'll just have to wait and see at E3 2010. But seriously guys, i've been down this road a few times. Sega VR, Apple Pippin, 3DO M2, and the list continues :lol:
     
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  6. Shadowlayer

    Shadowlayer KEEPIN' I.T. REAL!!

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    My beef with the Wii comes from the fact that it is an overclocked Gamecube that sold for more than the former did at launch, even when the first was old tech by late 2006.

    Most of the craptastic shovelware coming for Wii is a direct consequence of the half assed hardware it has. Now, the X360 is still current-gen, but it has 5 years and compared to PCs it shows, so there's not much power to spare. That and the fact that Natal will now depend entirely on the old G5 for processing means we wont see more than minigames running on it.

    Some will be good, others great, but most will be bad, or crap:banghead:

    Indeed, if the experience is underwhelming it will kill any enthusiasm for the technology, so there wont be a second chance, not for MS.

    I'll rather see Natal as standard in the X720 (or whatever it will be called)
     
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