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Discussion in 'The ASSEMblergames Marketplace' started by Dano2k0, Jun 21, 2005.

  1. Dano2k0

    Dano2k0 Guest

    Hey guys, i'm new to this site as you can tell to my post count, although i have been a member of the xbox scene comunity for a number of years now.

    I currently have an almost complete Xbox Development Kit system, all that i'm really short on is the little board that is located in the top, that has the SCSI port, Serial port, and USB Port etc.

    Please do let me know if you happen to have one of these as i'm pretty desperate for one!!

    I'm located in the UK, but would buy world wide aslong as you'll send me what i need.

    Please email me if possible on support@xconsoles.co.uk if you can help me out.

    I would also consider a full XDK if the price is right.


    Cheers.
     
  2. Pikkon

    Pikkon "Moving in Stereo"

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    Its gonna be hard to find just the SCSI port, Serial port, and USB Port.
    Do you have a DVT3 or a DVT4.
     
  3. ...It doesn't matter as the interface boards are the same for both DVT3 and 4, but crucially you are gonna need the correct HDD cradle as this has the mounting points for the interface boards.

    ...Oh and you're gonna need the correct IDE and interface cables.
     
  4. Dano2k0

    Dano2k0 Guest

    Thanks for the info guys, i got some bits from a guy where a board had some solder work done to it and it was busted, but i think ive fixed that.

    I have the proper top half of the shell too, which has the extra ports on the back etc but i don't have the correct hard drive caddy, i didn't know there would be a difference, but i had thought of as to how the boards would be mounted.

    Ive found a guy who may be able to supply me with the boards i need, and some of the cables, but as for the IDE cables etc, i could make my own if i wanted right?

    Even if i found the board i have to still be no good, then i could always use another V1.0 board and do the RAM upgrade, then flash it with the correct bios and enable TSOP flashing, this would be just as good as the original board right?

    I belive the only real difference on the dev boxes are the extra boards with scsi etc, the different bios, flashing is enabled, 128MB RAM, and a few other things, but from what ive seen it looks exactlly the same really, so i think it would be possible to do a conversion.

    Thanks for the help guys.
     
  5. hl718

    hl718 Site Soldier

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    One of the core chips is different on the dev boards and on the retail boards. That will cause issues if you just try a direct BIOS flash.

    -hl718
     
  6. Pikkon

    Pikkon "Moving in Stereo"

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    128 upgraded mobo and a dev mobo are different.I know they use different
    mcpx chips.Cant use the recovery cd.Eprom is blank as in its not for a retail.
    Old Engineer could anwser alot more than I can.I have a debug mobo
    but I cant part it out of my debug kit that Im gonna sell pretty soon.
     
  7. HI_Ricky

    HI_Ricky Guest

    may be use it hack x360 hdd ?? :)
     
  8. macwest

    macwest Resolute Member

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    In making a xbox development box best thing to start with is a debug box and add cards(usb, seriel). Everything I have read about debug and dev boxes is the only difference is the extra cards.

    If you are trying to run in debug mode you can get away with a modded xbox connecting over lan but I have never tried to add the usb or seriel card.

    I am not sure what type of program you are trying to debug but if it is a game a modded or debug box will work just fine. I know for me for my own games I have been able to work out all bugs on a debug kit and have not had to use the dev kits at all.
     
  9. ...Thats right, you only ever need the Dev Kit to Serial debug the Kernal or to use the SCSI DVD emulator side of things.

    ...A 'plain' ole Debug Kit doe's 99.9999999% of the work just fine :)

    But if you insist on building a Dev Kit make sure you use a Motherboard out of a genuine Debug Kit just like Macwest explained.
     
  10. HI_Ricky

    HI_Ricky Guest

    yes, dev kit and dvd emu can done 99.99999999%
     
  11. Dano2k0

    Dano2k0 Guest

    Hey guys thanks for the info supplied here, its very useful. I don't know a vast ammount about building a Dev kit as you can probably tell here.

    However any information supplied will be put to great use, i have to give credit to everyone whos posted here as the info is very usefull.

    If anyone happens to have a dev kit motherboard to sell then let me know as i may be interested.

    Thanks for the info though guys, its much appreciated.

    Any further info please let me know.

    Also i don't suppose theres anyway to convert a standard board to make it do most of the stuff a Dev kit would? the source on Dev kit on the net appears very limited.

    Cheers guys.
     
  12. Dano2k0

    Dano2k0 Guest

    I'm based in the UK, how much would you be looking at shipped to the UK?

    Cheers.
     
  13. macwest

    macwest Resolute Member

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    There are a few debug kits going on ebay now
     
  14. atomiX

    atomiX Guest

    yes, it's possible to "convert" a retail xbox to debug and do most of the things a debug kit can but it's never going to be 100% identical.

    if your objective is to do homebrew, you could manage very well with a converted retail.
     
  15. Dano2k0

    Dano2k0 Guest

    Yeah i understand theres a difference with the MCPX on the Debug and on the retail board, ive had a couple of people (even on here) tell me this also.

    If i did convert a retail board, which i know is possible to a degree but i'm a little unsure how far you can actually take it (i'm mainly wanting this for homebrew) would i still be able to add the scsi / usb / com ports so i can use DVD emulation etc? or would it not be possible to use these at all?

    I'm basically now looking to see how possible this is to make a standard board into a Dev / Debug board, but with the extra cards etc, someone told me this is possible, but theres hardly anymore info available on the net in this area, i have spent many hours searching this week so far.


    Thanks for all the help guys. :)
     
  16. macwest

    macwest Resolute Member

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    If all you are doing is a game the usb com card is not needed. You can use a modded or a debug kit, the xdk, studio net and a understanding on how to program. with that you are on your way.
     
  17. HI_Ricky

    HI_Ricky Guest

    mod xbox to dev xbox very cool, it also support install XDK5933external and XDK5933internal ver :)
     
  18. LtRipley36706

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    For the uninitiated, whats the difference between 5933external and 5933internal other than the obvious latter being kept inhouse, is there anything else different?
     
  19. 5933 Internal xshell .xbe and xboxdash are twice as large in file size compared to the External version's.

    ...Make of that what you like ;)
     
  20. haliway

    haliway Guest

    is there a link explaining how to transform a retail xbox in debug vers with the 5933 vers xdk
     
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