$30 gamecube component cables

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  1. Sally

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    Saw this somewhere else, thought it was interesting:


    Source: http://forums.slickdeals.net/showthread.php?sduid=100965&t=224659
     
  2. ASSEMbler

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    they are sold out, nintendo doesnt have any more stock I tried to orderlast week.
     
  3. Barc0de

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    i still don't know why they called it the "digital" output.there's nothing digital about it.
     
  4. Sally

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    Did you call or did you use the website?

    link says you have to call...

    If you called, then... um... nevermind
     
  5. Calpis

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    The digital port provides digital video output AND digital audio output. Component cables have a DAC inside.
     
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    Barc0de Mythical Member from Time Immemorial

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    the gamecube's "digital" out is not digital in any way, i assure you sir. standard analogue modulation ending at male RCA connectors based on the component system guidelines - should be the same with the Japanese D-terminal, but i m unsure whether the D-terminal is similar to the RGBHV/15sub VGA connector modulation or the component (sync on green)
     
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    I m sorry to inform that the information provided in that link might be a bit innacurate or badly writen. The "digital" output of the gamecube is not able to carry audio, not because of the physical structure, but due to the way that the gamecube is designed. Firstly, no software supports digital audio as in dolby digital, and second, the cube's audio system is firmly pointing to the analogue video/audio out. It does not communicate as far as I know with the port in question. - In other words, the port/cable might support such feature, but the wiring behind it isn't there as far as I know , and even if you could get a digital audio stream, you'd need some custom amplifier/decoder, which again would end up being as good as the analogue audio setup on a prologic2 amp/decoder, or maybe even less due to the way that the audio is rendered, considering the MusyX stuff.

    The information about the DAC is accurate, but the signal is not considered to be digital since the modulation is analogue. The only difference is that the DAC is not internal as in VGA cards, but supplied within the component/d-terminal cable in order to lower the cost of the cube console itself.
     
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  9. ASSEMbler

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    I called. They stopped stocking them over a year ago.
     
  10. Dot50Cal

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    Well damn, My hopes just got up. My cousins component cable was just eaten by his puppy :|
     
  11. Barc0de

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    I think you can try gamechoiceclub.com , they also offer modified versions that can hook up to PC monitors (i have one, works great). They may find stock because the modify D-terminal packs, instead of western component cable versions of they cable
     
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    Can you prove this with scope shots? Think about it, you're calling everyone out there with a S/PDIF transmitter on their GC liers. Are you sure you aren't confusing YCbCr for YPbPr?
     
  13. madhatter256

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    A local pawnshop is selling gamecubes at $30 a piece with all hookups...
     
  14. Barc0de

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    how much is the shiping to uk?
     
  15. NeoAux

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    30 bones man?I would buy them in a heartbeat.I need an extra.
     
  16. Barc0de

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    i still haven't got my first XBOX , but I can never have enough gamecubes for some reason..
     
  17. ConsoleFun

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    For the record:

    The Digital AV PORT on the Nintendo Gamecube DOES output both DIGITAL video and DIGITAL audio.

    The Digital AV port is functional on both PAL and NTSC DOL-001 cubes. And on the Panasonic Q. But the port is removed on the later DOL-101 cubes.

    The original Nintendo cables for the Digital AV port have a DAC inside which converts digital video to ANALOG video. Both the DOL-009 D-Terminal video cable and the DOL-010 Component video cable outputs analog YPbPr component video. Composite sync on the Y-signal in both cases.

    The default video mode is 480i (15kHz). Many NTSC games support progressive scan 480p (31kHz) if the A button is pressed during boot. No known PAL games support progressive scan. This is not due to hardware restrictions. If you boot an NTSC game on PAL Gamecube, using Freeloader or a modchip, you can get progressive scan if you want to.

    The DOL-009 D-Terminal cable can be modified into a VGA cable. There is at least one good guide on the net on how to do this - just google. This is easy because the DAC-chip in the cable can be set to output RGBHV instead of YPbPr simply by connecting pin 12 to Vcc (3.3V) instead of ground. And then tap V-sync and H-sync from DAC-pins 21 and 22. The snag is that the software has to output progressive scan (31kHZ) for the cable to work on a normal VGA-compatible monitor.

    One could of course hook up a Gamecube to a VGA monitor using i.e. the D-Terminal cable and the XRGB2-Plus upscan converter. I do. And - since the Digital AV port provides digital output, it should in theory be possible to make a DVI or HDMI cable to get digital video :)

    As for DIGITAL audio;

    The Digial AV port outputs 24-bit digital stereo at 48kHz in I2S-format. There are hacks available on the net on how to convert the I2S-signal to SPDIF (IEC60958) using the Toshiba TC9231N IC. The problem is that this Toshiba IC is hard to get, but one should be able to use a similar IC from i.e. Crystal. I have almost got this working on my PAL gamecube :)

    The SPDIF port (optical TOS link) on the Panasonic Q output digital audio for DVDs and CDs (IEC60958 and IEC61937) - but NOT for Gamecube software.


    Cheers!

    CF
     
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  18. Calpis

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    Thank you ConsoleFun.
     
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    excellent , thanks.
     
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    Nice work ^_^ , regarding the SPDIF, I was not aware of the toshiba IC for the conversion , so my bad.
     
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