Adding a Hard Drive to the Playstation 2...

should probably stay off of newegg lol

 

Well, that's nice then. Last time I checked on OSD/PSBB was when it had just been cracked.
But WinHIIP speeds though, 50-70MB/s :3

Still, had I known about the tool earlier I might've had gone with FHDB.
I had to replace the hdd when the old one died. Now it'd take too much time, reinstalling all the games after a format (even with WinHIIP).

 

Frist sorry I haven't been keep up like I was.. Now you guys have be totally confused (trust me, sometimes it doesn't take much! LOL).

FreeMcBoot = FMCB, MC = Memory Card, PS= Playstation What does OPL=(what), and osd/psbb= (what)?

Thanks! .

PS, Just trying to follow the conversation so I understand what to do..

=hugh

 

OPL= open ps2 loader (a ps2 app that lets you load games from usb/internal hdd/lan).
OSD=On screen display, in this context it means ps2 bios menu.
PSBB=official sony software for interacting with internal HDD.
Basically the OSD/PSBB softmod lets you load games from internal hdd from the PS2 browser (memory card browser) menu. Without an app like OPL.

I think, I might be confusing things, so wait for someone else to confirm/deny this.

 

after doing research i do believe you are correct, mine is setup with OPL

 

When I liked your post I actually liked the fact that I was right. So don't get any crazy ideas. It's just a like.
And I should go to bed. Yo.

 

Tsun Tsun! Dere Dere!

But yes you are correct and as a bonus!
Fun Fact # 2981273: Booting games from the OSD actually uses a per game install of a striped down mini OPL.

 

What program is that? I've tried a couple of them (ftp servers?) and never had much luck.
Like you say, in the end speed doesn't matter much to me. I currently have a 160Gb 7200rpm Ide drive with FHDB (installed via Swapmagic + latest FMCB version, I believe I've extracted it to a usb stick from an iso), but just the fact to not have to take the hdd in/out beats the rest. I have a silver ps2 which stopped booting the hdd and I somehow associate it with constantly exchanging. It's a strange problem, though, as it can boot it once only: hdd spins, leds flash, games are read as they appear on the OPL menu, but upon starting any of them, I just get a black screen. The hdd doesn't spin up again, as if the power was no longer supplied or insufficient.
I prefer to have my saves written to the hdd also. It's easy for me to just manage a VMC (virtual memory card) file, that can easily be backed up/overwritten though a usb stick with ulauchelf. The only upgrade I'm considering is having a more silent hdd or even a solid state/CF drive.

Edit: IIRC, DVD9 games must be installed via ISO (meaning ethernet or plugging the hdd to the pc) even if you have the original disc and intend to use, say, hddloader to copy it.)

 

i use HDL Dump Helper Gui v2 and something on my ps2 to transfer copies of the games i buy and then rip to iso to the hdd in my ps2

 

http://ichiba.geocities.jp/ysai187/PS2/HDLGameInstaller.htm

 

Personally, I think you should mod your network adapter to support SATA hard drives, then use a SATA hard drive. Makes your PS2 future proof and allows you to use more reliable hard drives. Thats what I did with mine.

 

same here i got the one from maxdiypower and just over the weekend i added some more games i just got

 

Yeah I got my network adapter premodded from MaxDIYPower a number of months ago, and its worked flawlessly with the handful of games ive played (Resident Evil Outbreak, Burnout 3 etc)

 

What harddrives are less reliable? Please don't spread fake myths unless you have some real proof to back it up with. And present it as soon as you present your claim.
IDE/PATA is as reliable as SATA, and as "future proof" as SATA.
It's a matter of preference and depends on what you have at hand.
Do you have a spare PATA or SATA drive?
That's the only reason to choose one or the other when it comes to PS2. There are no benefits, none of the two is better than the other.

 

Ok well, I didn't think that claim would hit a nerve but ok. I don't have any proof to back that up, but I figured common sense would suggest that newer drives with new technology would be more reliable than 10-15 year old drives, but whatever.

Sorry but no, this is just false. IDE drives cannot be as reliable as SATA simply due to IDE drives being a lot older. Everything has to fail someday, and IDE drives are more likely to fail due to them being a lot older. IDE drives are not as future proof as SATA simply because IDE drives are not manufactured anymore. What happens when your IDE drives die? You can't exactly run down to your local computer store and buy another one....

Yes it is, correct, but like I said, if you want to cover yourself for the future, then its better to go with SATA since you'll still be able to buy SATA drives in the coming years when the drive you're using eventually dies.

I never suggested this. I am well aware that the limitations on PS2 hard drive speed is down to the PS2's bus speed, and not the drive itself.
All I suggested was to go with SATA because it definitely is more future proof than IDE, weather you choose to agree with me or not.

 

Again, you're just assuming. You are assuming that because drive x is older than drive y - it is less reliable. This is an incorrect assumption.
But this doesn't really matter as there are huge stockpiles of brand new IDEs that haven't yet been sold.
So, SATA is definitely not more reliable.
You're just assuming and presenting your opinion as a fact.
So, like you said, if you want to cover your self for the future choose any of the two. As there is no real way of telling which one is gonna fail you sooner.

 

If drive X is significantly older than drive Y, then I would definitely not trust it as much as drive Y. This common sense, not an assumption. You misunderstand the point im trying to make.

Yes, there may be stocks of brand new IDE drives out there, but that is limited and will not last forever. IDE drives are not manufactured anymore. That is a fact, not an assumption.

I'm guessing that you're still using an IDE drive yourself so you're simply defending your choice, and thats fine. I'm just making the point that SATA drives are a better choice purely because they are newer and will be around long after every IDE drive on the planet is dead.

I'm going to end this debate now as it seems pointless to continue. You have a different opinion than me and thats fine

 

Okay guys heres what I have: FAT P2 with a Seagate IDE hard drive installed, I have formatted the drive using FreeMcBoot (1.94) uLaunchELF (4.42e_HHD), I also have a JUMP Drive with/and used HDLoader (0.8c) to install some of my games. Now the question is how do I put 'backup games' on the hard drive. I have the .iso, I have tried burning the games with many programs to burn with no luck. Can't play them using FreeMcBoot (don't know with ELF I need to use if I need to use one), or trying to rip it with HDLoader.

Why am I using HDLoader and not WINHIIP is because I am not able to hook up my drive to a computer at the moment, working on that issue.....

Questions: 1) What do I need to do get by PS2 Modded (sorry guys I'm not good at soldering and I really don't want to take this thing apart unless I have too.)?
2) Can I run or install the .iso from a JUMP Drive using FreeMcBoot some how?
3) If I do manage to, hookup the HD to the computer and use WINHIIP, does this mean I will have to re-rip my games and use WINHIIP to install them?
4) I've moved HDLoader over to the memory card, so how can I add it to the main menu so I don't have to go into uLaunch every time?
5) Any other neat EFL programs I can or run off a JUMP drive you might suggest? LOL

Just so you know, at this time I only want to do play 2 .ISO files, but like I am doing with the PSX, I downloading games to see what they are like and if I like them, I am buying the originals, even though the money isn't going to the developer at the this point <not to mention most of them are long gone. >, it's the predicable of the idea.

=Hugh

 

Just buy an IDE TO USB adapter so you can use Winhiip, and be done with it. You're just making everything a lot more complicated than it needs to be.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B00D...to+usb+3.0&dpPl=1&dpID=31j2YPI9CfL&ref=plSrch

Also don't bother with freemcboot, look up "HDD OSD" and use that method of running games.

 

For installations over the network, use either HDLGameInstaller or HDLDump.
For installations from your disc with your PlayStation 2: HDLGameInstaller or HDLoader. HDLGameInstaller cannot make proper DVD-DL installations on its own yet, so please use HDLoader if you want to install your game from the disc directly.

Use OPL to boot your games. FMCB alone, will not allow you to boot games that you cannot already boot.

Or if you desire a PlayStation 2 experience, you can consider getting a copy of the HDD Browser installed. You will have to use either HDLGameInstaller or AKuHAK's HDLDump to install your games, as only these two tools will install your games in the required way for the HDD Browser to recognize them as bootable software.

No. All tools will install the games in the HDLoader format.

Boot the FMCB Configurator and configure the OSDSYS menu items.

If you want to go without the memory card, you can consider installing FHDB.

What's a JUMP drive?
What's EFL?

The HDD Browser is for booting SONY software. It alone, will not allow him to boot games.
If he installs games with HDLGameInstaller (or AKuHAK's version of HDLDump) and he uses the HDD Browser to boot those games, then the HDD Browser will be actually booting an embedded copy of OPL to boot the installed games.

But it is his decision. Personally, I love the PlayStation 2 experience, so I do use the HDD Browser.