Aliens Colonial Marines - Did Gearbox trolled us all?

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  1. synrgy87

    synrgy87 Well Known Member

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    id and bestheda did something similar with "RAGE" hopefully the next doom / quake incarnations will be better quality.
     
  2. Prometheus

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    Yeah, a damn good track record of releasing buggy, incomplete games. I really like Obsidian, I just wish they could finish their games for once without cutting loads of content or having bugs left and right. I'm hoping LucasArts (or Disney, whoever has the say in the matter) lets them make KotOR III. BioWare had their chance with ToR and screwed that up, so let Obsidian have a shot. I liked KotOR II better than I anyway.

    RAGE was nowhere near this bad. The only issue I recall with RAGE was bad texture pop-in to maintain the 60 FPS on consoles. I don't remember any unintentional Spaceballs references.
     
  3. synrgy87

    synrgy87 Well Known Member

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    i still cant really play rage due to the gfx cards i have(which should be more than able to play it) between the devs and amd they never bothered fixing it properly, it has its fair share of glitches and is a piss poor console > pc port there was an update the other day to add a 64bit launcher for it, all thats seem to have done is greatly increase the loading times lol.

    its the only real epic launch fail that comes to mind, bar of course previously mentioned duke nukem forever, which really wasnt as bad (in my opinion)
     
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    GungriffonEX <B>Site Supporter 2013</B>

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    About 4 missions in and some multiplayer. It has a ton of issues, but some of the criticism is ridiculous.

    Criticizing the sound of the Pulse Rifle in the Kotaku review? It sounds EXACTLY like it does in the movie.

    Lack of weapon variety? It was every gun seen in the movies plus more.

    Complaining about it being a corridor shooter? All the movies take place in claustrophobic corridors.

    Id rate it a 7/10 as a huge Aliens fan, but I can see why someone that isnt into Aliens would rate it much lower. I liked the Hadleys Hope level with the Infirmary Ripley/Newt encounter the facehugger, the control room with the layout of the colony. The corridor with the Sentry gun. If you dont know the movies, as many reviews didnt, they wouldnt appreciate these details.

    My main complaints are the terrible textures, and the fact that there isnt Host migration for multiplayer, and no first person for Aliens in Multiplayer.

    With more polish and this could have been great.
     
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  5. Prometheus

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    I played RAGE on 360 installed to my hard drive, so I don't know how badly they botched the PC port. The game looked and ran fine for me.

    I thought Duke Nukem Forever wasn't too bad either. It had obvious technical issues and I hated the regenerating health and the 2 weapon limit (damn you modern FPS tropes...), but it wasn't the worst game I ever played. Not worth $60, but considering I only paid about $20 for the Balls of Steel edition, I think I got my money's worth.
     
  6. synrgy87

    synrgy87 Well Known Member

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    see have seen some reviewers claim to be "big alien fans" then know nothing of any of the movies and are comparing it to the likes of deadspace, halo and call of duty.... seriously who hires these clueless goons. someone whos played world of warcraft for the past 10 years isn't really qualified to review a sci-fi franchise first person shooter.

    there is alot of bs out there and some people do show themselves up:

    quote from screw attack(rev 3 games) live 60min out of the box review "oh man im a huge aliens fan i love aliens..." and then the other guy has to explain everything "oh i havnt seen aliens... or alien 3, and i cant remember the first one i seen years and years ago" << clearly a huge aliens fan (not word for word quotes)
     
  7. Bad_Ad84

    Bad_Ad84 The Tick

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    I can no longer respect your opinion about anything, ever again.

    Sorry
     
  8. Johnny

    Johnny Gran Turismo Freak and Site Supporter 2013,2015

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    DNF wasn't so bad if you were OK with clunky controls and game mechanics long outdated even by Duke Nukem 3D's day. Two weapons at a time was rather annoying at best. I'm glad it got released and we can now move on with our "Top 10 Vaporware Product" lists.
     
  10. 7Force

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    DNF somehow managed to mix all the worst parts about old FPSs (block and jumping puzzles) with all the worst parts about new ones (only two guns, levels blocked off with barricades, regenerating health, turret sections). Throw in some rape jokes and an honest-to-fucking-god Olsen twins reference in 2011 and you've got one terrible mess of a game.

    Anyway, someone should host one of these instead of Colon Marines: http://www.mostimpressive.nl/AKF/index.html

    edit: Well, OK, not all of the worst parts about old FPSs, at least you didn't have to hunt for keycards. But there are air duct sections, which should've been outlawed at least since around the time Deus Ex came out.
     
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  11. Bad_Ad84

    Bad_Ad84 The Tick

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    DNF was bad, no ifs, buts or maybes.
    If someone who was around for the original disagrees I will punch them in the balls. True story
     
  12. Johnny

    Johnny Gran Turismo Freak and Site Supporter 2013,2015

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    So now there's a rumour of a patch being released soon... The size of it? 8GB! The final game is apparently 7GB.
     
  13. synrgy87

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    dear lord thats a big fat patch... but will it be worth it? or is it just a crap load of new textures and cinematics to match?
     
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    I'd love to see you do that through the monitor.
    I like Duke 3D (never really loved it) and also enjoyed DNF quite a bit. :)
     
  15. Prometheus

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    Haha, implying that my opinion was ever worth respecting in the first place.

    When I say it wasn't too bad, I mean it wasn't the unholy abortion spawned from Satan that everyone made it out to be when it launched. At least it wasn't another boring modern military FPS. I found it irritating however when DNF made jokes at other games expenses despite taking concepts from those games and doing it poorly.

    "Power armor is for pussies!"
    I agree! So why do you have regenerating health like Master Chief?

    "I hate Valve puzzles..."
    Me too! So why the hell are you making me do them anyway?

    Plus now that's it out, we can finally put all the "Duke Nukem Forever is taking forever" jokes to rest. Now we have Final Fantasy XIII Versus to make fun of.

    That's... uh... huh? For consoles? Can they even do that? Isn't there a limit to how big a patch can be on PSN/XBL?
     
  16. 7Force

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    I would bet anything it's because the game was designed to not have those features, but then they were tacked on later. It's obvious when you look at the levels that were likely designed to be more open, but then have tacked-on barricades because modern FPS games are supposed to have barricades.
     
  17. Conker2012

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    I think he means that if Duke Nukem Forever had been exactly the same as it is now, but didn't have the Duke Nukem name, didn't have the twelve year build up to it's release, and didn't have the reputation of the Duke Nukem brand to live up to, then when DNF came out, we'd have mostly thought it was a below average but not terrible game, and some people might even have quite enjoyed it, but mostly it would have been ignored by most gamers as just another game not worth their time or cash. But since it was a Duke Nukem game, and DN fans (like me, I still play DN3D, DN64, and Duke Nukem: Zero Hour (the fantastic N64 only sequel)), had such high hopes (despite the hopes being repeatedly let down in the past), we all gave the game much more scrutiny and attention than it would otherwise have received, and so it's flaws were much more publicized.

    To me, it's not a terrible game. There are many games worse. But it isn't a good game either, and there are literally hundreds of games across my seven systems (six consoles and the PC) that are vying for my time (my backlog is huge, plus I love to replay my favourite games), so I'm never going to play DNF as there are much better games to spend my free time upon.

    Incidentally, System Shock 2 has been re-released today on Good Old Games (http://www.gog.com/gamecard/system_shock_2) so if you want to play an absolutely first class game (first person shooter, with well thought out RPG elements, and as immersive an atmosphere as you'll ever get in a game) then get SS2. It's definitely one of the best games ever made, and everyone who likes FPS/RPG games should play it.
     
  18. Zombie250

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    If the patch fixes all the issues, I am fine with it. I am very dissatisfied with the game. It's not horrid, but not good. It's more "meh" than anything. Story is non-existent, and I bought it for the damn story. What was there was crap. The Aliens AI sucked ass as did team mates and Weyland Yutani soldiers too. Seriously they took things from the movies and made this abomination..

    I enjoyed the game as an Aliens fan, but I'd rather play AVP2.

    As for DNF, I did enjoy the game. It felt aged from the start, which didn't bother me at all. I was glad just to have it.
     
  19. ASSEMbler

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    Expect sega to sue them for sure.
     
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    I'd be willing to participate in a Class Action Lawsuit against them for false advertising/bait and switch. We have the right to do so.
     
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