Analogue Nt: an RGB NES and Famicom. No Emulation.

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  1. MottZilla

    MottZilla Champion of the Forum

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    Actually the NOAC's are very accurate. The problem is just a minor issue is not really acceptable. The main issue with the NOAC's is the APU's duty cycle settings for the square waves somehow switched two bits around. This unfortunately makes some games sound very wrong. This can be worked around if you are using a flash cart by patching the ROMs. The next issue that bothers people isn't a problem with the CPU or PPU cloning, it has to do with wiring of various signals to the cartridge port. They made certain assumptions that were wrong that cause certain boards to not work.

    I would bet that this product uses original CPU and PPU chips.
     
  2. DeckardBR

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    Your right, all RGB and no HDMI. I should have looked more carefully. I didn't realize that their consolized MVS Neo Geos were RGB only also.

    Since the NES is more plentiful in the secondhand market and cheaper then a Neo Geo, I'm curious on the price point.
     
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    Zealon <B>Site Supporter 2014</B>

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    I'm really interested in this combo console as well. I love the originals, but a toploader with rgb output is a big "gimme!" I'm curious if the everdrive carts will work at all, I am a bit doubtful but its worth a try.

    I look forward to the release
     
  4. MangledLeg

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    I'm excited about FDS support, but like everyone else - price and components.
     
  5. darcagn

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    While your product looks great, the audience of this board is going to ultimately judge your product based on its internals. Why not let us know what's going on under the hood?
     
  6. MangledLeg

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    +1 :)
     
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    Since we know it can output RGB, it's likely that it doesn't use the original PPU. It probably uses a replacement PPU like the NESRGB.
     
  8. MottZilla

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    Actually somewhat recent technical discoveries allow you to use a standard retail PPU and by "spying" on it you can generate a RGB video signal. It could be using such a device with your run of the mill NES PPU. I'm not familiar with the NESRGB. Is it a full PPU clone in a FPGA or something?

    Edit: After a quick search, this NESRGB is what I'm talking about. It does use an original PPU, it just spys on signals and builds a better signal. That's a simplified version of it as it is more complicated but an original PPU is definitely required.
     
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    la-li-lu-le-lo ラリルレロ

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    Yeah, I guess you're right. I haven't looked into it much until recently.
     
  10. darcagn

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    The UniversalPPU is the clone that doesn't require a PPU. It's an FPGA solution and supports a few more output types (VGA, component), as well as custom updatable palettes. The creator announced last week that the project will be open sourced so you will be able to build your own UniversalPPU as well.
     
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    ... has anyone heard any more info on this project? Still curious, but no update on their official website...
     
  12. MangledLeg

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    *Bump*

    If anyone is still curious, apparently tomorrow will reveal some more details according to their site:

    http://www.analogueinteractive.com/

    Will have to have a nosey when I get home form work tomorrow!
     
  13. Zealon

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    I think the Nt would look pretty nice in cherry wood or walnut as well if that option was available. I like the overall design and it seems pretty well thought out to meet both tastes of the audiophile and videophile who want the best of both. I would like to see some videos showing the Nt in action.

    Does the aluminum have a clear coating on it? I can't really tell, but I'm assuming it might since aluminum doesn't really like fingerprints.
     
  14. blotter12

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    Details are up!

    ...and CMVS sales are gone??

    Or have they been gone for a while?
     
  15. airs

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    Wow, $500 and you have to pay $49 extra for the HDMI "support"
     
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  16. MottZilla

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    Well it's pretty much what we figured. It is an original NES CPU/PPU with all the mods and such you might want. So if you have that kind of cash and love the NES/Famicom I can see getting it. The support for both NES and Famicom as well as the upgraded video output is certainly appealing. Given the price you'd expect top quality. It sure isn't cheap.

    The HDMI "support" is misleading. There is no support for digital video in the system. It's an external RGB upscaler for HDMI output. It really isn't a big deal at $50 when you consider you're already spending $500 for the system. Being separate means if you aren't interested in that you don't pay for it.

    I also noticed the NeoGeo CMVS was gone.
     
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    I think Krikkzz said he is not going to release that as a console. He said he may implement it into the new Everdrive64 v3 though. Bunnyboy from RetroUSB.com is also making a new NES system, that I think is FPGA based, that will output HDMI.
     
  19. Lastcallhall

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    There's also Viletim's RGB board and the UniversalPPU project. No need to spend 500 bucks on this.
     
  20. Rabid Peanut-Butter

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    Yeah, here's a quote from Krikkzz in the comments of that video:

    Playing NES on a Genesis would be great.
     
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