and again sony news (PS3 & PSP)

Hey


First PSP:

Price will probably be 244 € / 167 ukp /33,000 yen

Thats almost 100 € more than the Nintendo DS. I think, even for that kind of technology, the price is too high. nintendo will have a better sart selling the DS.

http://www.gamesindustry.biz/content_page.php?aid=4535

PS3:

Will have Blu-Ray disc technology, so now they can make games which hold up to 54 gigs. Great...

http://www.gamesindustry.biz/content_page.php?aid=4534


l8r

 

Blu-Ray... so that means for the first 2 years of its life, games will be £50+ as the media is so expensive to produce...

"Great forward thinking - Sony" (new corporate tagline)

 

Pricey. I won't be rushing for a PSP. There's only a handful of games I want from the list thus far, and I doubt they're launch titles. I'll wait for the 3rd or 4th batch to come out, where there'll be no overheating problems.

 

THise with the overheating problem could always double as a handwarmer in winter climates :smt033

 

the psp isn't interesting to me right now.
it's expansive and 75% of the games are ports of ps2 titles....

ill certainly buy it in the future... but one thing is sure , ill never buy it in is first year.

the ds look more interesting to me right now , but who know , the wind can turn .... but i don't think it will turn in the near-future... the psp just look like a tech gadget to me.

i really think sony will loose points in the next war.

 

Oh yippy, very good Sony. It's hard enough to fill up a DVD with a quality game, never mind 54 Gigs worth. I see the future of Sony gaming filled with many hours of FMV :smt045

Yakumo

 

Precisely my thoughts.

 

Yes and and Resident Evil movie/game boxsets, nevermind having just the FMV :smt043

 

Yeah, it is just now. But the more power a machine has the more data it needs to store. It's really silly to think that DVD's would be in the PS3. Also it means that the brilliant blue ray technolgy will be available on a massive scale.

This is good news.

Every one here hates big companies... Microsoft/Sony... It's getting old.

 

I agree with you. Even using DVD , 40% of the PS2 games can be put on CD's.

That's why there are some pirated games on CD-R without ripping. They just get rid of the dummy files and it fits a 700mb CD-R.

On the other hand, Gran Turismo 4, from what i'm reading will use a DVD9 at the max. :smt023

That's why it's important to have as much space as possible.

 

54Gb is as decent excuse as any to charge a bit more cash. What more did you expect from Sony? What'll be more interesting is to see how the market responds to blu-ray films. DVD has only just become the standard, I'm not sure the average consumer really wants to upgrade to higher quality.

 

maybe the psp just looks like a gaming device on the surface. It may be sonys version of an ipod in the long run. Playing music, video, games and maybe internet could be what they are really aming at. By saying its for games it could take the competition off guard. After all if its being touted as a gaming device only nintendo would care initially. Suddenly when the user base is relativly high, sony would blast the public with the psp as a media player. So under those circumstances the price would be justified and one the hardware issues are worked out on the initial buyers it could be redisigned at a lower cost. This kind of strategy could put other media player makers out of buisness. I think very few will sell in the begginning and sony will not lower the price, no matter what the loses. Nintendo DS may do better than psp in sales figures, but I'll bet the psp is going to be sonys yuppie ipod. It won't matter if gammers or kids want it because sony is shooting for a different maket over the long term.

 

Correct me If I'm wrong but did they not use CD's for many PS2 games? They could also use HDTV but I suppose Sony is just trying to cram all their new tech into one unit.

I still fail to see the brilliance behind this tech. Let's see more storage and... a new laser with a shorter wave length... How is this really supposed to benefit us over something like HD DVD?

People here hate big companies because they like to screw people around with garbage products.

 

Also the psx (dvd mutil media thing) was just a test bed for the ps3. I'll bet the ps3 will have a lot in common with the multimedia psx. Sony knew it would fail, they were looking for live feedback. The blue ray discs used in the psp may be sonys way of displacing CDs and DVDs in the long run. High def is around the corner and US copyright legisltion is huge. The blue ray discs may be compliant to what the movie studios want to get rid of cds and dvds in the US. If the tiny blue ray discs become the standard in the US, sony stands to make a lot of money. I am personally afraid of what the PSP may represent outside of gamming. This may be the golden age for multimedia devices, in the future US choices will be very limited.

 

Mixing your media a bit there fella, the PS3 will use Blu-Ray, the PSP uses UMD which is a sorta upgraded minidisk.

 

In AntiPasta's links they showed this littler thing a chart maybe, it had infared and then red laser and then blue laser (blue ray)... Kind of showing a scale of least efficient to fastest. So not only is it bigger space it's also faster read times with faster hardware.

 

it might be nice if the psp played ps2 games but then it would be a portable ps2 and the new pstwo is about as portable as that gets, with a lcd screen if they come out with it. :smt023

 

Sorry I was not specfific enough. Sony can go either way with umd or blue ray. Everything is in the early stages and if they hold the keys to future technology with the consent of legislators and the movie industry, the golden age of multimedia has come and gone

 

UMD=cd's
blue ray = dvd's
sony hopes to elimiate both of these mediums with the support of government, record companies and movie studios. Let not forget that sony unlike nintedo, microsoft and ibm "IS" the movie and record buisness. It is in thier best interest to control media and the content that it is published on.

In the mid 80's sony marketed minidisc players through Tower records with the full backing of the record industry. The customer bought the player, the media and then had to pay to have the record uploaded to the minidisc. This was all before Home PCs became very common, so there was no risk of piracy in the US.

PSP and PS3 will be the means for sony to what they could not do in the 80's. The customer will buy the player and the media, then he will pay to upload the content. Guess how much production costs will be for the movie studios and record comapnies (very little)
It didn't work in the 80's because lots of old people still bought albums and they thought it was a scam (it was). They refused to buy minidisc uploaded music and the idea failed, however the idea did not die. (some still bought minidisc players, but they did not use it the way sony wanted)


I will not buy a psp retail and I suggest that no one else should. If you must get a PSP or PS3 buy it second hand so sony will think they are a dismal failure. By purchasing a PSP or PS3, you the customer are voting "YES" on the corporate controlled use of media and data storage.

I like some sony products, particularly thier video cameras. And yes I own and enjoy PS2 (I am not a fanboy I own and collect all systems) However, its not just about games when it comes to the PSP and PS3. These are the reasons why I will NEVER get these unless they are secondhand.

 

So it will be about $300. Way too much if you ask me. I don't think I will get this or the DS. I will just stick with my good ol GBA SP.