And you thought PS3 was expensive...

this dilutes their cred. Nobody wants "rare" stuff marketed to them.

 

:lol: you should come to Italy - here you can get a pair of prada (shoes) for more or less 300-400 €

EDIT : I dont do that. Buying them, i mean. That's pretty insane. Wearing a 500 bucks shoe that you even cant get dirty because else you'll complain about it???? That's insane i say.

 

The thing is your missing out from your post is that it might actually be worth paying 300-400 for shoes if the quality is there.

I have £200+ denim jacket but thats only because i find that the quality and design is worth it. However i doubt at $140 the sony tshirt will be worth it.

 

Parenthesis.
Yep. You are damn right about the quality. But personally i think quality has a price. A maximum price. The rest comes merely from the brand printed on the product. The heck, im sure you can get a pair of Adidas shoes that feel as comfortable as the prada ones but cost like 1/4 of the latter ones. Here where i live something like that is called speculation. That's exactly what sony is aiming at : producing 1c shirts with the PS logo on it and resell them for 100 bucks. Insane or not?
End parenthesis.

 

If they spent more time making games than churning out this shit they wouldnt be in the situation there in now.

 

If you want to talk "quality" as in durability you will find a denim jacket that does the same as yours for way less money. You're buying it for the design. Just like anyone who's buying a Sony t-shirt for $140.

Show me a £400 pair of shoes that have such fine manufacturing that they can outlast 10 pairs of £40 shoes and I'll concede the point.

 

Well i did say quality and design. However on the quality point with denim its pretty much a personal thing. You might not care if your denim is churned out by some robot at levis however some people like japanese selvaged denim with some special magical die that will age nicely and wont tear apart in a few months. I know people who have been wearing their jeans in for a couple of years! (if not more) to try and get the look they want.

To that kind of person the £200+ price tag is worth it. Personaly i just liked the jacket and its really nice quality. Better then anyother jacket ive seen. As kammedo said churining out a 1c shirt with a iron on PS logo isnt exacly quality at its best.

 

everything's worth what you're willing to pay for it ultimately, so I can't judge yet if I don't see how this stuff sells (or stacks up in shelfs)

That said, I highly doubt the quality of that stuff is going to be anywhere near the established expensive (and good) brands. If you want an expensive watch, buy a rolex. I can't imagine an embassador wearing a PlayStation watch, without being made fun of by his fellow diplomats

 

Agreed, we probably all spend money on stuff that would seem ridiculous to others. Re-reading my post it comes across as a bit confrontational, no offense meant Paulo.

Again, agreed. People who can afford to blow $700 on a watch are probably in a minority amongst their peers in being interested in games in the first place, so the desire to have Playstation written on their watch wouldn't be too high.

 

This "diversification", overpriced new system, and cocky, arrogant attitude... it seems familiar.

Is it 1984 again?

Is Sony the new Atari?

 

What really amazes me is how the idiots in sony's marketing dept. werent taken outside and shot in the head after proposing such an stupid idea, let alone they finally did it...

The main problem with this concept of playstation gear is simple: is way too early. Lets take a look at other companies that release stuff: ferrari. They may started this trend in the mid 90s, but ferrari is like 70 years old or more, and they werent know for their luxury cars until the 60s, before that they only did cars for competitions and such.

What sony doesnt understands is that games dont belong in the luxury segment of the market. Maybe you could name systems like the NeoGeo, but it doesnt exists anymore, and back in the day was a comercial failure anyway.

A Ferrari shirt costs 80 bucks or more due to the simple fact that the car is above $200000. You cant sell a watch in $700 when the console is $499, is like paying $1000 for a Casio...

More like the new nintendo or SEGA.

Altought, we could say the entire market is going the way the 1984 industry did...

 

You've said that in two threads now, and there's really no justification for it, especially when there are two new consoles coming to market and all 3 next-gen consoles are looking ready to make some money. The idea that there's some huge crash coming because nobody will buy games any more is absurd. The market is nothing remotely like it was back in 1984, it's well established and there are a lot of people making a lot of money, not to mention hundreds of millions of eager consumers. That isn't going to change overnight.

On-topic, this is just another of Sony's stupid mistakes. These mistakes may cost them market share but that money will go to another videogame company instead. Videogames are an important part of a lot of people's recreation, and if Sony can't make money with them then Sony will crash and burn and another company will step up. Game development costs may rise in the next generation, but that just means the market will have to diversify into cheaper games with less focus on graphics, and high-selling blockbuster titles with huge budgets. There's just way too much money waiting to be spent for the market to ever crash.

 

Dude you dont get it right? you cant look rich with a console simply because is like pretending to look fancy in a toyota.

Mainstream products cant be considered luxurious, it creates a contradiction with the concept of low prices and wide availability (wich BTW is the exact opposite of the basis of any expensive product)

A rich gamer would ratter buy a $4000 Dell XPS and a 30" LCD if he wants some kind of respect. Buying overpriced shitty shirts with a corporate logo (cuz that's what it is) makes you look stupid and without any class at all.

And about market, of course it wont collapse in one night dammit, but we cant discard that VGs may have peaked, and that after this generation things could get sloppy or just completely downhill.

A crappy economy, increasing interest rates and a $599 MSRP for the main console doesnt helps either...

 

I totally agree - apparently you think I don't? I thought I'd explained my stance on this pretty well further up the thread.

I'd argue this has already happened. The fact is that the consumers lap up 50 Cent games, and will continue to do so for the forseeable future.

Whatever, I'm done with the topic. It's not the first time it's been brought up and shot down, let's just wait and see eh?

 

Indeed, who knows what's finally going to happen...

 

Peh, a rich gamer should be buying all the Neo-Geo AES Metal Slug gamesand/or a European Kizuna Encounter. At least, when I think "rich gamers" thats what I think. That and Darius Alpha, Derisoba Deluxe, Hitachi Navi GPS HiSaturns, Recca, etc.

Or maybe I'm just thinking that thats what I would be buying if I was rich.

 

I would buy an Asimo android, then shot him in the head to save the world from judgement day and yet another season of 24:rambo:

That or some cheetos...

 

Damn that makes two of us then.

(OT) Importaku your avatar always makes me crack a smile. I assume you actually look like that??

 

I had a pair of Air force boots that cost me $180, those things lasted like five years of constant wearing.
By contrast, a pair of $250 Doc Martins I had fell apart in less than a year. So I agree, brand name doesn't always equal quality. Then again I suppose what type of product you're talking about. A $90000 Bently is by far a nicer car than a $1400 Toyota, will take a lot more abuse, last longer, and is less likely to fall apart after normal wear and tear. There are some instances where you get what you pay for.

 

Yeah. In fact in most instances you literally get what you pay for. Expensive, fashionable clothes are the exception, not the rule. The value is personal rather than physical.