Ban wave

300 thats it's there are like people that are ranked in the 20000's and they got all 300 pirates good job. On a lighter note game stores did get this in last friday, and I'm a 48 already great online gameplay.

 

That's exactly what I'm saying. The Super Bowl is Modern Warfare 2, and the receivers are the Xboxes.

Plus, on top of that, a large ban would make people think twice about flashing their boxes - am I right? Makes a giant commotion like this as to if they now have some sort of system to catch people a lot easier, or what's going on.

 

Well at anyrate. I can for say there is no conspiracy theory on that Microsoft waited for a massive ban on purpose. They have been banning people individually that have been sloppy so that right there proves they aren't waiting else they wouldn't have banned people. Also its not the fact no one has self control and can't wait till cames come out. I have had self control and only backup games I own since I now have a steady income so it boggles my mind how I am banned. Also to answer the question about "can't Microsoft compare the firmware's" no they cannot it is physically impossible for the drive to read/write to the 360 unless its through the eye, otherwise all of us would have been banned much sooner the way they detect potential pirates is they compare drive behavior. Something in how the firmware makes the drive behave has been flagged down recently most likely with a discovery of a new detection...

 

PS: mikerocks, dude don't talk about downloading games that is agains't the rules I believe.

 

New update... This one should shock everyone here.

""Sorry. ixtreme all versions is/are detectable or their behavior is detectable therefore hence a new FW is being worked on. For those with ixtreme I would advice no further use of 360 until this firmware is released. Until then, god bless 360scene. No technical data was being as to WHY its being detected all of a sudden."

C4E has announced new firmware that does not stray from the original in terms of only changing the media flag, on which I respond, if they can detect the firmware directly (which is what everyone has been getting out of what C4E is trying to say) than they could just compare the MD5 of the firmware and STILL know its different from the original. Now if they cannot read the firmware directly and it is an indirect means of detection then I am sure we will all be in happy land. Regardless I am now $200.00 short off my next paycheck to pay this 360 off ;_;

 

well according to x-s they already got 600,000 poeple and are on their way to finishing up the last 400,000, so either way its a win win for M$

 

Lol, you play with fire your bound to get burned. If you bought all your 360 games you be perfectly okay. And we all know about 90% of users with modded firmwares are piraters no matter how much they try and way our opinion.

 

Wow. That's a huge number. That's JUST from this ban wave?

 

Don't get mislead by Tyler's statement however, there statement doesn't at all make it sound like they already have logged 400,000 people into a list to-ban. They just plan to get 1 million by the time holidays are over.

"My trusty source says that they have been given instructions to push for a million banned accounts by the time the holidays are over."
Still sucks however.

Also this entire if you bought your games stuff is getting kind of stupid.

This topic is about those bans, someone already said if you bought your games you'd be fine, I really don't think it's necessary for everyone else to post that same statement. I'm sure everyone here that played backups know if they played their legitimate games they wouldn't be banned, but they chose not too, and now they're discussing technicalities of the bans. So can we please get past the "you should've just played a legitimate copy" phase?

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I have no business on retail except for playing with certain people IRL and some people online, and I'm pretty sure I can easily hold myself offline until this new firmware comes out.

Bravo Microsoft..

 

I notice that it's the people that play pirate games that say "So can we please get past the "you should've just played a legitimate copy" phase?" :110:

Nice bit of sarcasm at the end there, I am sure Microsoft do love all those hacked Xbox 360s which are not playing proper software and I am really sure that 0.0001% of them have a use that isn't playing pirated games...

Be funny if they do find a firmware hack only for microsoft to counter it and ban those people too.

 

Very misleading now that you say that... Even so, 600,000 is still quite a bit

 

Excuse me people but don't come in here pointing fingers and accusing people of being pirates because you don't know that for sure. I for one USED to be a pirate but when I got my job I started purchasing games and used my firmware for sole reason of backing up games for myself. This became popular practice for me and to prove my methods are useful I have a ring in one of my backup games (saints row 2) to prove that it was a useful thing to do so don't come in here pointing fingers and screaming witch. The firmware was not invented for pirates it was invented for backup media and I am sorry s3g4f4n but nobody is trying to sway your opinion or gives to cents what you have to think. I am honest about what I do and I don't think you have the right to accuse others of otherwise off of popular believe and stereotyping that all FW users are pirates. I wouldn't have bought a brand new 80 dollar kreon drive when they first came out if I was planning on downloading games. The only game I had downloaded was ODST on a seperate box from the one that was banned and purchased it on release night just like I did Halo 3. Nobody is trying to convince people of anything because nobody expected random people to show up in here and point fingers, you are not a judge and FW users are not on trial. If you agree with the bans then that is your opinion but don't accuse us of being pirates. That is all...

Now I put this thread here for discussion about FW and the recent bans not for accusations so if people can't respect each other and stop stereotyping I will have a moderator lock the thread. I thought people were more mature to stay ontopic instead of baiting people on the internet.

 

Chill man it's not healthy to get that excited about posts :thumbsup:

First of all some people admitted playing copies even you, secondly jamtex is right almost ALL hacked 360's are used for pirating.. and those few that don't are really rare and you can't deny that.
I mean respect if you use it nowadays for keeping your originals safe but there is no need to go nuts when somebody brings up the word pirate.
Plus who the F cares what the hell you or others do on your 360 except MS harr harr harr :lol:

 

I don't ever remember claiming to play backups I never payed for. And the only reason I am getting worked up is because its like a broken record that continues to derail the thread so excuse me if I come off uptight but people can only keep hearing the same BS till they snap and want to start hitting others with a wiffleball bat...

 

Well as lllsondowlll brought to my attention I believe it is against the rules to talk of pirating things. But it's understandable that he's just trying to be responsible and mature by bringing this thread back on topic. I mean as soon as you get a few people flaming then it turns into a huge-ass flame war causing either
1) A locked topic
2) Gives the board and/or its' members a bad rep, especially considering how it is available to guests to read
3) A lot of people in a bad mood :\

If we could get back on topic that would be nice but on a side note -- many people pirate due to financial issues; but in my opinion if it's a good game it's worth putting the effort into buying the game and supporting the developers that worked hard to bring it to you.

 

Couldn't have said it better myself.

/ontopic

 

This thread is about a MS live ban due to hacked 360s that are mostly used to play pirate games..and therefore banned from online gaming. talking about pirates and pirating games sounds ontopic to me.

 

You miss the point. The firmware was designed for backing up original owned discs to media to owning a second copy of your purchased game incase of damage. What you don't understand is piracy is a choice and Microsoft is banning because of piracy but that does not make everyone pirates. Yes their are people out there and a large majority of them that use the FW as a exploit to download and burn games but that does not apply to everyone and when people start name calling and making comments such as "serves you pirates right" that is stereo typing and it is not on topic of the technicalities of the ban and contributes no useful information / updates other than repeatitve flame bait. Point and case.

Yes pirates exist, no thats no what the firmware releases were intended for (thats like saying all of you are pirates because you own a cd/dvd burner) , It is your legal right to backup any media you legally own all C4E did was allow you to use the backup to preserve your original and Microsoft is banning because of mis use of the feature. The goal of this thread (if I haven't made it clear before I am doing it now) is to establish a solution as to alert people of the action microsoft is taking and to better understand the methods they are using for detection and to relay news and updates for FW users (Not pirates). We are talking about the firmware nothing more.

Anything else leads to a thread war and all I am doing is closing the window to hateful useless comments.

 

To add to that, it's like me saying something about Americans being stupid, because I'm Canadian and that's what many Canadians believe. Sure, there are dumb Americans, just like there are dumb people from every country. Whether it's a few people that give others a bad name or even the majority of a certain group that make others seem like they're dishonest -- there's false accusations flying around everywhere. What we just need to get a grip on is stopping comments where people accuse others when they don't know them face-to-face. It's like a comment I saw on these forums where MTW was critisizing Old_Engineer and other members for no reason; he was simply being negative. Those people either have low self-esteems or are just idiots. Although, I think about it now, and my comment seems unrealistic, because this really won't likely achieve much (if anything). So sorry if it seems like I'm dragging this on I will not say anything more in regards to what I voiced in this reply.

 

Yes and torrents are there for people to exchange legal data.
And usenet/newsgroups for spreading news
And so on...

Oh didn't realize it was a choice, so its a feature you can choose to use?
Don't get me wrong here I am not chooing sides with anybody, I am not saying that you should not be allowed to alter something that is rightfully yours.. actually I am not saying anything actually....except when you take the wrong turn you might get lost and that when you react with a vengence don't complain about replies/flames.

It does serve pirates right, difference is nobody called nobody a pirate until 'somebody' mentioned playing a game online too early/before original release or something and other people agreeing.
And after you started complaining about people pointing fingers while you admitted being a pirate yourself back in the days..

Then there is this pirate is mostly done because of money issues, thats like saying you are allowed to steal food when you dont have the money to buy it.. and to be honost that reason is much more legit, as gaming is not needed to surivive, so its basically stealing for luxurly (because we are spoiled)

The only thing leading to flames or closing this thread was you expressing your frustration towards the so called stereotyping of pirates and people accusing you of being one.

If you don't like this:
1. don't start such topics
2. don't react like you did and just ignore the posts you don't like.