Banished from ebay for selling dev

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  1. Cheese007

    Cheese007 Peppy Member

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    They ban you and they let those asshats that sell off bootleg GB and GBA carts as the real thing? That is BS. Might as well ban the people who sell their modded XBOX, PS2, Saturn, and GCs because theycan circumvent copy protection. Hell why not all people who sell SEGA CDs, TG-16 CDs, Turbo Duos, and DCs while they are at it. You don't even NEED a modchip or a swap disc to play games off a CDR on those things. You happen to sell anyone a broken TEST PS2 recently? Didn't you sell skitzo one that was broken because you didn't have time to test it?
     
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  2. Japan-Games.com

    Japan-Games.com Well Known Member

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    I've had items pulled, but I've never been banned before. The shitty thing is that you are guaranteed to find other sellers doing the same thing right now and getting away with it. eBay's "the rules only apply when someone points the finger at you" policy is and always will be BS.
     
  3. ASSEMbler

    ASSEMbler Administrator Staff Member

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    Not that I am aware of. I test all the expensive stuff, it was probably in a progressive video mode and needed to be switched to normal video.
    They are all set that way. You just need to reset the video option.

    You basically have to follow the steps to change video like on a retail unit.
    Boot with no game.
    Press down once, hit X.
    Press down three times, press LEFT
    Hit x
    This takes the unit out of RGB mode to component view.
    Developers usually have them in RGB mode which will result in
    no video but sound on a NTSC TV.

    Everything is sent insured too, if it arrived broken, it should have been
    claimed on.

    As to skitzo, I sold him a psone that arrived broken, and he refused to
    accept a refund and decided to repair it. I did offer a 100% refund.

    I hope this removes from you mind any "stories" you've heard about
    things I have sold.
     
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  4. smf

    smf mamedev

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    Dev kit auctions get pulled constantly. I believe Benedict Arnold had his auctions and account pulled. I know several unknown people that have only sold one dev kit item have their auction pulled too.

    So I'm not sure that it is some personal vendetta. It's probably they are too lazy to go after everyone. Ebay don't always roll over if someone asks to pull an auction, there is a process you have to go through to prove your claim. I've known them to refuse to pull an item when joe public points out that an item shouldn't be sold.

    smf
     
  5. smf

    smf mamedev

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    They have pulled console auctions because they were modified. They can't do much about consoles that don't have any kind of protection in them, but under the DMCA/EUCD the modified consoles are illegal. That covers the US and most of Europe.

    mod chips and even saying how to fit them is illegal too. DMCA/EUCD covers any kind of information about bypassing digital copy protection. Enforcing it has been tricky, technically telling someone how to use a marker pen, or to hold shift while putting the cd in the drive, to work round the copy protection on audio cd's is illegal too.

    A TEST PS2 is a pretty expensive way of playing copies though. Do people actually buy them for that?

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  6. Bert Hardy

    Bert Hardy Gutsy Member

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    In the UK you are legally entitled to request all electronic information that relates to you. Any company/organisation MUST by law provide this information in a timely manner for a reasonable fee. Typically £25 is deemed reasonable.

    Is there anything equivalent in US?....You could instruct Ebay to provide this information and get more details.

    (the law only applies to information that can be used to identify a living person, hence emails from Sony, internal emails, basically anything that is held electronically)
     
  7. Bert Hardy

    Bert Hardy Gutsy Member

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    Another point worth mentioning - if those TEST items were bought in a legal auction then it's the auctioneer/administrators of the defunct company which should be held accountable for selling something which is not legal, I'm making the link that what ebay say is banned is also illegal., Maybe that's not the case...
     
  8. virtual alan

    virtual alan Officer at Arms

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  9. kammedo

    kammedo and the lost N64 Hardware Docs

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    Keep in mind that its not eBay who wanted to ban him, but 99.9999% Sony...and the fact that they dont ban people who sell "behind the scene"-material of the Big N is th e proof of it.
     
  10. subbie

    subbie Guardian of the Forum

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    "And it was 'selling items that circumvent copy protection'"

    Got to love that BS excuse by ebay. They apply that to anything.
     
  11. Hawanja

    Hawanja Ancient Deadly Ninja Baby

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    As far as I know there's no law like that here in the USA. You can get whatever info a company has on you via lawsuit, although most large companies have a process for obtaining information like this (credit reports for instance.) I could be wrong about this, but I've never heard of any law that says any company or organization has to surrender any personal information they have about you on request.

    Kevin, maybe when you set up your new account you should keep it secret from the boards for a while, just in case it is an ex-member trying to make your life a living hell.
     
  12. idc

    idc Spirited Member

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    Hawanja, I'm not sure why you have cause to accuse Old Engineer of ratting on ASSEMbler.

    Old Engineer left the forum for certain 'political' reasons, he didn't leave because he had something against ASSEMbler. Leaving was his own decision.

    I know him well and I don't believe he'd set out to have someone's eBay account closed and I certainly doubt your assumption that he'd have a vendetta against anyone here.

    I know for a fact that the likes of Sony and Microsoft scour eBay for 'offending items' regularly - I myself have had run-ins with Microsoft in the past. You neglect to take into account the most obvious; that it may have been Sony who were watching ASSEMbler's auctions. Also, since he'd changed his eBay ID twice within the past nine months and received negative feedback on several occasions, then I'd say that that would not have helped his case:

    http://feedback.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewFeedback&userid=devbx

    So no, he wasn't selling shrunken heads or foetuses, but he has sold items with which the buyers have been less than happy.

    With all due respect, I think you're confounding the situation and blowing things a little out of proportion. If you're going to make such claims, back them up with reasonable evidence, not opinion. Otherwise, you're just going to create more unrest and the only vendetta will be against you.
     
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  13. dickibow

    dickibow Intrepid Member

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    I didn't know Old Engineer had left - what a bugger. Top bloke.
     
  14. ASSEMbler

    ASSEMbler Administrator Staff Member

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    Old engineer might have wanted to leave, but he is a man of morals and he would not stoop to such levels. He was nothing but a great member here.

    Let's get it straight that people around him and some sonic xtreme people
    are the ones who cause the drama.

    As to who is giving me trouble, does it really matter? I'm not going to lower myself to
    doing things on their level.

    I'll just move on and make changes.
     
  15. Hawanja

    Hawanja Ancient Deadly Ninja Baby

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    Proof? I'm just speculating, that's all. You say you know the guy, well good. Scratch one suspect off the list.
     
  16. Alien Workshop

    Alien Workshop Site Soldier

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    OE has nothing to do with this. In fact, OE has nothing to do with the ASSEMbler forums anymore. He doesn't even visit this place, at all. So please, just stop accusing OE of doing any harm to this site.
     
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  17. zappenduster

    zappenduster Familiar Face

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    btw. assembler the 3do m2 car demo just arrived in germany (at least i think so) only thing now is its parked at german customs gotta get it today =)
     
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