Best solution for ripping NR Reader disk

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  1. Alkaid

    Alkaid Member

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    Hello.

    First time working on this and I've gotten information from many sources; but yet I'm still a bit confused on what my best option is to attempt to rip the data from a GC NR Reader disk.

    I have a normal GC unit and am willing to mod it if needed but I'd prefer to find a software solution to try to rip the data from it if possible. I'm also willing to pick up a GC debug/GC unit to try to get this to work as well.

    I've also heard of a solution that involves one of the Phantasy Star Online disks for GC and a broadband adapter unit but haven't been able to find both together (seems there's 3 or so released PSO games for GC) and I wanted to make sure I've got the right one as well for my unit.

    If anyone knows and can possibly help me find the best solution for ripping this disk (or someone who may be willing to rip it for me/teach me to rip it) I'd appreciate any assistance I can get on this matter.

    Thank you in advance for any assistance you can provide me!
     
  2. chalmo

    chalmo Spirited Member

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    I have a PAL copy of PSO and a Japanese BBA (the BBA works universally as far as I know, definitely on a PAL cube) that I should probably let go, would be coming from Australia though.

    I have no idea what either is worth, if you're interested we can try to work something out. Let me know.
     
  3. Alkaid

    Alkaid Member

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    I'd be interested, however I'm not sure if the PAL disk would work on my system. (which I'm going to take a wild guess and say is NTSB?) But if it would work, yeah, I'd be interested in working something out for sure. :)

    Also, does anyone know if there's been a way to rip GC disks via Wii? I forgot to mention that I do have an unhacked Wii that I may be able to use as well if I can find a way to rip the ISO from it, etc.
     
  4. chalmo

    chalmo Spirited Member

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    OK, do some investigation and if it's suitable then let me know. If not I'll probably put them both up for sale but I'm in no rush so take your time, I won't sell them out from underneath you.
     
  5. Demo

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    There is a Homebrew tool for the Wii called "Superdump" it dumps Wii and Gamecube discs.
    Retail consoles are unable to read a NR disc as far as I know, no matter what you do to the poor thing.
    I think the best way to rip your disc is to send it to someone who can do this, crediar did some awesome work to enable us to rip those Discs. ;)
     
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  6. splith

    splith Resolute Member

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    Modded retail GC CAN read NR, but the big problem is with all the backup software is that it resets the drive, so it re-reads the disc normally (same problem as the BBA-DVD loading software and why it needs a genuine disc) and therefore you can't rip it. What you need is a DVD-ROM that can read it, or software burned to an NR-ROM like PSO or a backup program which you can put into an NR-Reader, then swap discs with the one you wanted backed up (you need a BBA) and then back it up that way.
     
  7. Alkaid

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    crediar huh? Hmm, I shall try to look this person up and see if they'd be willing to rip the data off the disk for me.

    And thank you all for the suggestions, I'll look up crediar and if I can't contact them I'll see what my next best option is.
     
  8. lilly

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    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EG6cbDu8hVM

    original post:
    http://www.assemblergames.com/forums/showthread.php?t=21622&page=2

    "This shows how a RVT-R disc is dumped, all one need to do this is a LG GDR-8164B Drive, a screwdriver, the Program RawDump for Windows and a RVT-R which needs to be dumped.

    The drive needs to be open, as seen in the vid, then insert a retail game DVD and start RawDump. When the program starts to dump the game DVD, stop the drive using your finger and swap the retail game with the RVT-R disc. After that, simply quit RawDump, erase the created .ISO file from the game and restart RawDump with the RVT-R inside the drive and it will start to dump the RVT-R, you will see that it works when RawDump shows the name of the RVT-R disc as shown in the vid. "

    credits to g0dlike

    It works with nr-disc (self tested).
     
  9. G0dLiKe

    G0dLiKe <B>Site Supporter 2013</B>

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    Well, thx for the flowers :) dumped another menu changer disc just yesterday. BTW, no need to swap the discs and stopping the drive. Just insert the Wii game, start the dump, stop it- wait till the disc stopped spinning, insert rvt-r/nr disc and start the dump :)
     
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    beretta85 Peppy Member

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    This is what I figured out on my own in my quest to figure this out...you need :

    1) a retail gamecube (will be disassembled)
    2) an nr reader (will be disassembled as well)
    3) the necessary tools to disassemble a gamecube
    4) a way to boot GCOS 1.5 (or any version which supports dumping a game)
    5) CAT5 crossover cable + BBA

    First, be sure that the TCP/IP settings on both the gamecube and your computer are correct so that they can communicate with each other.

    Take apart both the retail and NR gamecubes so that you are capable of removing the dvd drive. In all gamecubes, the dvd drive simply lifts off because it plugs into the motherboard. On the NR drive, make sure that you keep the NR disc that you would like to rip on the drive. This is good to protect the laser, and is required for this method to work.

    On the retail cube drive and NR drive, you will need to fasten the lid switch back so that the machine will think the lid is closed.

    Boot GCOS on the retail cube, and then go into the disc ripping utility. When it tells you something to the effect of "put in a game and Press A", you will want to take off the retail dvd drive, and replace it with the NR dvd drive.

    Right as you plug in the NR drive, the dvd will start to spin. Its a good idea to plug in the NR dvd drive and then press A as fast as possible, as I am not sure what will happen if you let the NR disc spin without pressing A. After you press A, the disc should be dumpable and you can follow the on-screen instructions to go to the proper web address on your computer.

    After about an hour, the disc will be done dumping itself. At this point, the GCOS tool will ask you if you would like to dump another game. If you want to, simply put on another NR disc, and continue dumping.

    I have personally developed and tested this method with multiple NR discs, and I can assure you, first-hand, that it works. Use at your own risk.

    edit:

    I've tried this with the LG drive and rawdump 2.0. It never read my NRs, only my retail games. Maybe I used an old version or a sub-optimal LG drive.
     
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  12. Alkaid

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    Thank you all for the good suggestions!

    I'm going to take a look at my options and see what the best one is for this situation.

    Thank you all again for your help, I really appreciate it!
     
  13. VerticalE

    VerticalE Robust Member

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    Sorry to ressurect such an old post but I bought a region modded Gamecube + an NR Reader and I want to create a Dumpcube. I was wondering about the step of switching between retail and NR drive; why is this step needed? Why not just throw the NR drive in the retail Gamecube and not do the switch?
     
  14. psyk0pat

    psyk0pat Proto Dumping Squad "To protect and to save!"

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    I can't help with retail / NR reader consoles modification, hope that other people here will have the knowledge and answers for you about this.
    If you can't find a solution and just want to backup some discs someday, check my signature below ;)
     
  15. Borman

    Borman Digital Games Curator

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    The key is how are you going to boot into dumping software Vert? The point I think was to boot like PSO on retail or some other exploit to get to the dumping software, then switch drives for the NR.
     
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  16. VerticalE

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    I always figured that you could boot off the SD-card reader (on a modded system) or that the dumping software was in the actual custom BIOS/FW. Seems I was wrong. I have a SD-card modded Gamecube on the way that I probably can't use for my Dumpcube then. I was hoping there would be another alternative than duct-taping two Gamecubes together and create some sort of switch between the two systems.

    The only other option I guess is creating some sort of boot disc for the NR-Reader. I know someone with a NR-Writer (if he can only find the time to figure out how it works) and I have blank NR-Discs. Maybe a recoded version of the startup disc that comes with the SD-card modded Gamecube would do the trick.

    What other options do I have on dumping? Demon ruined a NR-Disc using his swap trick on one of those PC DVD drives if I'm not mistaken.
     
  17. Borman

    Borman Digital Games Curator

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    Yep, using an NR with proper software is an option. Dot50Cal used a Phantasy Star Online NR back in the day, before all the fancy SD dumping options to do the same sort of thing.

    Ive been using my TDEV for dumping, but I have the USB dev adapter which isnt going to be any easier for you to find hah. I boot the disc that comes with that, then load the Swiss DOL, from there I can load just about anything from the SD card, including dumping software.
     
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