Best VGA-solution for ps3?

i searched the latest 3 pages in these sony-forums but didnt find anything, wanted to ask what the >currently< best solution for VGA for ps3 is? i'm having my xbox 360 hooked up to my 21"-lcd, which i'm using for work too, so i want to hook up my ps3 also. i found various vga-adapters at play-asia for that purpose, but the user comments are all different, some say it's complete cheap crap some others say it works like a charm, so whats the deal?

 

Using the Playstation 2 Linux kit VGA adaptor, I connected up my PS3 to a monitor and found the highest resolution it would offer was 480p (VGA resolution).

The two other solutions seem to be a Component to VGA convertor or a HDMI to VGA convertor, the quality will vary depending on how much you want to spend (a good HDMI to VGA convertor would be around $250 to $300). However for generally a little more you could probably buy a 19inch HDTV with HDMI, Component and VGA outputs...

 

what about HDMI to DVI?

 

thanks for the replies HDMI to DVI isn't easy since HDMI is digital and has quite a few protection-schemes and DVI is analog, I guess some kind of converter would be very expensive (like a HDMI to VGA converter which is like 300$)...

just wanted to ask if some of you have run across these:

http://www.play-asia.com/paOS-13-71-de-77-2-49-en-15-vga-70-2b90.html

and here's the vga cable:

http://www.play-asia.com/paOS-13-71-zp-49-en-15-vga-70-2jp6.html

i think it works like a component cable with just some converter inside to make it VGA.. both products have mixed reviews..

 

DVI is analogue? no sir.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Digital_Visual_Interface

 

Again you get what you pay for a $40 to $60 lead is going to use cheap parts and is going to be a component to VGA convertor. A more expensive component to VGA convertor will give you much better results.

If you want the PS3 to look as best as it can then you will have to splash out on a TV / monitor with a HDMI or DVI connector, otherwise look out for a Playstation 2 VGA cable and and get 640x480 VGA and relive those Dreamcast days.

 

A HDMI to DVI adapter will only convert the HDMI pins to the DVI-D digital pins, the video signal will not appear on the Analogue pins. It's like getting a SCART RGB signal and wondering why you aren't getting a picture from the Composite video pin...

 

Well while your wrong on DVI i still fail to see how if you were right it would of been any different to VGA.

If you have a DVI monitor just buy a DVI to HDMI adaptor X 2, HDMI lead X 3, and hdmi switcher.

Connect one DVI to HDMI adaptor to monitor, HDMI cable to switcher, ps3 to switcher and then DVI to HDMI adaptor on PC and HDMI cable to switcher!

I dont think you have to worry about HDCP with the ps3 just yet. Also this should be relatively cheap to implement.

edit:

You can probably find a cheaper switch but take a look:

http://www.amazon.com/Belkin-AV24503-HDMI-Video-Switch/dp/B000WZ439M/ref=pd_bbs_sr_4?ie=UTF8&s=electronics&qid=1211722909&sr=8-4

http://www.amazon.com/Eforcity-HDMI-F-DVI-M-Adaptor-Contacts/dp/B000E8X5Z0/ref=pd_bbs_sr_4?ie=UTF8&s=electronics&qid=1211722839&sr=8-4

http://www.amazon.com/HDMI-Super-Resolution-Cable-Eforcity/dp/B000E8OVMQ/ref=pd_bbs_sr_3?ie=UTF8&s=electronics&qid=1211722889&sr=8-3

Total around $70 and you can have all 3 connected to our monitor and not lose any quality. 360 to vga and PC and PS3 via HDMI. You could always use DVI to HDMI cables but if you then get a new tv or something you would prob not be using those cables and have to buy just HDMI cables.

 

This looks like it would do the job and and its cheap ! ($60)
http://www.x2vga.com/

 

thx for all the advice guys

as jamtex already said its a little bit more complicated with hdmi to dvi, since dvi has analog pins too so its not completely digital and i think even with paulos suggestion you wouldnt get something visible on your screen with just the adapters, i guess i'd need some expensive converter-box for that.

the x2vga is one of those component->vga adapters but it seems to have indeed good reviews and looks like it has more quality than the ones on play-asia.com ... i guess i'll give it a go!

p.s. i already have the ps2 vga cable but since my monitor doesnt support sync-on-green i guess the ps3 wont output a picture either? never tried it..

 

Ah yes forgot the dreaded Sync on green, nope still won't work.

I have the Xbox X2VGA plus box and it's probably the best cheap Component to VGA convertor, the VGA signal still doesn't look as good as Component but it's good enough.

 

No i still dont see where you two are coming out with this. It doesnt matter that there are analog pins. I have my pc connected to my tv via HDMI and i just connected it to my monitor the way i just explained to my HDMI as well. Also works the other way around with a DVI-I cable.

DVI is compleately digital! Just because it allows a analog connection through other pins does not mean that a DVI signal isnt digital!

DVI and HDMI are almost the same exept that HDMI has a different format and carries sound. The ps3 works fine with a $2 DVI to HDMI adaptor!

EDIT: Actually double check that the ps3 doesnt need HDCP via HDMI some people said it does.

EDIT 2:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=irdoe_SG__Q

Take a look. Thats exacly the setup im talking about.

 

hm interesting stuff indeed. i always thought things would get messed up when having HDMI->DVI because of HDCP..i guess ur monitor still needs to support hdcp even with the converter?

this product from your video seems to be quite simple:



that means i just plug in my ps3 via HDMI, and thanks to the included dvi/hdmi-adapter i should be able to view the image on my pc-monitor.. but there's still people complaining it doesn't work with their monitors/lcds etc.. tough decision

 

Ok IF the ps3 needs HDCP via HDMI then your monitor does need to support it. Some people are saying it doesnt and say say it does.

IF your monitor supports HDCP it then any DVI to HDMI cable or that $2 dongle + hdmi cable will make it work.

IF the ps3 does need HDCP and your monitor doesnt support it i hear that there are boxes that remove the HDCP need. Dont know what they cost.

Either way dvi + hdmi is what i use with my cable box + pc when i dint have HDMI on my LCD screen.


By the way that box in the video and your picture is just what i showed you from amazon. I have a spare HDMI to DVI adaptor i can let go for a couple pounds if you wanted to take that to try out. Only worth it if your on this side of the pond though. If your in the USA just buy a cheap DVI to HDMI adaptor from ebay or something and a HDMI cable. Shouldnt cost more then $10 for both and you can try your ps3 on the LCD screen before you splash out on a splitter.

 

As he said he had a VGA input only monitor in the first post, I was assuming you meant a HDMI to DVI adaptor and then using a DVI to VGA adaptor after this. I assumed that if the monitor had a DVI port then he would have mentioned it.

 

Umm i dint see he said vga only. i assumed that it had a DVI in being a 20" LCD.

 

you can get this thing call HD Fury, is was designed to display the best possible picture on a vga monitor, they have a website

http://www.hdfury.com
my mate picked one up, not bad but a very high price $140. i would have gone with a cheaper soloution but it looks good and minimalistic becuase of it size.

 

oh thats the thing i need i guess, since it has a hdcp-stripper included! found it for 95$ at divineo, reasonable price..

 

You dont need that if your monitor has a DVI in. Does your monitor have it or not?