Case Swapping a Dreamcast?

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  1. Olschoolgamer

    Olschoolgamer Spirited Member

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    Basically my situation is this......I have a Dreamcast and a USB GDROM. My Dreamcast is a Rev. 2, and USB GDROM is only compatible with Rev. 0 and Rev. 1. The shell of my Rev. 2 is in EXCELLENT condition. I want to use it for my system and give my crappy one to the nephew. Can I board swap a Rev. 0 or 1 board into a Rev. 2 case? Will it fit?
     
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    honestly I don't think there was any changes made to the shell between the revisions... could be wrong though.
     
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    try it
     
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    You should be able to swap the VA1 and the VA2.1 over - from what I can remember the plastics are identical. The VA0 might be slightly more of a problem - the heatsink on the VA0 is retained by one of the PCB screws, and on the VA1 and VA2.1 it's screwed into a couple of pillars on the lower case.

    So puttin the VA0 board into a VA2.1 case should work if you cut the pillars away - but if you do it the other way around you will need to figure out some way of mounting the fan.
     
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    What's the incompatibility with va2? Is it just the milcd exploit being fixed? If so, you could change the bios to bring it back
     
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    I believe the incompatibility lies with the physical changes that were made to the VA2 MoBo on the dreamcast.

    To Answer the OP's question. Yes. You should be able to without a problem. No major changes were made to the system case shell.
     
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    You might be right, I've only seen a va2 once and was quite awhile ago - isn't the gdrom connector different or something like that?
     
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    It's essentially non existent on the MoBo on a Rev 2 model. The Drive is connected directly to the MoBo via a ribbon cable Thus eliminating the Daughterboard found on the previous 2 revsions.
     
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    That's MIL-CD compatibility - he's talking about plugging a USB-GDROM into it, which is impossible on the VA2.1 board because the connector the USB-GDROM plugs into no longer exists.
     
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    Yes I remember now, thanks for jogging my memory
     
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    Different ribbon cables/ different locations prevent USB GDROM from installing on a rev.2. Other issues also I would assume. I will try to land a Rev.1 on my lunch break today. It shouldn't be too hard to come across. I don't want to have to cut pillars or anything, a straight swap would be ideal. Does anyone know if they make Dreamcast Rev.2 modchips? If I give it to my nephew I want it to be able to play backups, and this Rev.2 won't in its current state.
     
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    you need to flash the bios to an earlier bios. now how you go about it.... Bad_Ad84 can chime in :) glad i never encountered a rev 2
     
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    To play cdr on a rev2, you need to swap (or piggyback) a new bios into it
     
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    For the record, in the event that anyone is curious, this does in fact work. I can confirm that you can swap between rev.1 and rev.2 shells. I actually left both in their originals though, because my rev.1 cleaned up nicely.
     
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