Cheapest Desktop PC for Emulation?

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  1. Nitrosoxide

    Nitrosoxide Resolute Member

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    I'm looking to pick up a cheap desktop PC that can run most of the emulators out there easily.

    I'd like it to be HDMI capable as the new Dolphin emulator for Wii comes to mind.

    I'd like to have the ability to play Wii and Cube games in HD.

    But, I also don't want to spend a ton.

    Note: My desire to use Dolphin is for its ability to output high resolutions.
    I don't intend to use it for piracy.
     
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  2. MottZilla

    MottZilla Champion of the Forum

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    Your wants are polar opposites. Dolphin requires an expensive CPU to perform well. Well atleast not a cheap one. I don't really see the appeal of it if you own a Wii and you don't want it for piracy. But I guess you have a reason.

    You'll just have to look into and price parts. You also might want to define a budget. You can make a cheap PC if you want to emulate anything PS1/N64 and down. I just got one thats a tiny PC for about $200. It can handle Neogeo, CPS1,2,3, NES, SNES (not BSNES), Genesis, etc no problem.

    Meanwhile, my Desktop's processor goes alone for that $200, http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115036&cm_re=e8500-_-19-115-036-_-Product

    And while it handles Dolphin decently it could probably do with being a bit faster, unless I'm GPU handicapped for Dolphin but I doubt it.
     
  3. karsten

    karsten Member of The Cult Of Kefka

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    for ps2/dreamcast and GC emulation you have to look for a multicore cpu with 3.0Ghz speed at the very least...

    my quad core 2.66 is too slow for many games on pcsx2... sadly i have to say :/
     
  4. angelwolf71885

    angelwolf71885 Dauntless Member

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    you can build a pc with a dedicated GPU and a 4 core CPU for 500 USD
    and it will play every emulator out there

    check out http://www.newegg.com

    i recommend going AMD to meet that 500 dollar figure
    as INTEL cpu's with 4 cores start at about 200 usd
     
  5. Borman

    Borman Digital Games Curator

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    Youll want an Intel CPU for Dolphin and PCSX2. Most people seem to agree that they work better.
     
  6. MottZilla

    MottZilla Champion of the Forum

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    Do not go for more cores. Go for faster performing cores. For example don't get a Core 2 Quad Core, get a DUO with faster performing but less cores. The reason being that most emulators at most can use 2 cores, no more. PCSX2 can technically use more I hear but only for software rendering that you won't likely use anyway.

    Again depending on your definition of cheap this may be mission impossible.
     
  7. angelwolf71885

    angelwolf71885 Dauntless Member

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    i doubt hes gonna spend all this money on a computer solely for emulation
    seems more like hes getting a new PC at the same time the emulation factor is just a bonus

    so in that case more cores are the better option

    if he was gonna get a computer just for emulation hed be better off getting a used PC off of ebay for less then 200
     
  8. Nitrosoxide

    Nitrosoxide Resolute Member

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    The sole purpose would be emulation and by cheap I mean like below 600 dollars.

    If dolphin isn't possible it'd be nice to have emulators up to whatever would be feasible for that cheap.
     
  9. angelwolf71885

    angelwolf71885 Dauntless Member

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    dolphin is more then possible at that price

    200 for the cpu fast duel core i5 cpus are pricey between 50 and 70 for the motherboard
    another 50 or 60 for 4 gigs of ram
    another 100 for a dedicated video card
    another 50 for a power supply of 450 watts minimum
    and another 30-50 for a case
     
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  10. la-li-lu-le-lo

    la-li-lu-le-lo ラリルレロ

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    I don't think Dolphin will perform very well at those specs. My specs are far above that, and my computer still has difficulty with some games in Dolphin.
     
  11. angelwolf71885

    angelwolf71885 Dauntless Member

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    never said it would work perfect..

    but you can get 1 1 gig video card for about 100 bucks on newegg
    and a very speedy duel core cpu and easily run dolphin
     
  12. Cyantist

    Cyantist Site Supporter 2012,2013,2014,2015

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    450 watts minimum? with an i5 a dedicated video card and all the ram I wouldn't risk anywhere below 600w as it could easily hit that at maximum load when you add in the hard drives and everything.
     
  13. angelwolf71885

    angelwolf71885 Dauntless Member

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    ummm why the hell dose everyone think of some 200 or 300 usd monster video card at 200 watts or more when they hear dedicated video card?

    a modest 1 gig video card is around 100 wants likely a little more

    the expensive video cards are only clocked higher other wise they are exactly the same as mainstream cards

    also i5's are right around 100 watts and one 2TB drive hovers at less then 50 watts

    i dont see how a 450 minimum would be broken easaly
     
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  14. Cyantist

    Cyantist Site Supporter 2012,2013,2014,2015

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    Look at it this way. I have a Dual core 4gb of ram and a 5770 amongst other things and Newegg and other people recommended a 600w. You have to think of maximum load. If it ever hit that much the rig your thinking of would blow it.
     
  15. angelwolf71885

    angelwolf71885 Dauntless Member

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    the 5770 isnt a modest card thats actually a rather beefy card
    im talking more about something from the 55XX series

    or the 200 series of nvida
     
  16. Rodrigo

    Rodrigo Spirited Member

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    I run Mario Kart Wii at fullspeed in a i5 760 @ 2.8 (stock) and a GT220 1gb sddr3.

    You'd probably have a look on the Sandy Bridge processors and a GT4xx for optimal emulation. I mean, you can run those systems on lower specs, but you'll be more limited when it comes to graphical enhancements.
     
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  17. Cyantist

    Cyantist Site Supporter 2012,2013,2014,2015

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    Seriously? It was only a £90 card. I didn't think it was that beefy. It did however get my rendering times down massively. Maybe next step is upgrading CPU.
     
  18. angelwolf71885

    angelwolf71885 Dauntless Member

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    the 5770 was top of the line for a few months in 2010 atlast in the mid range catagory

    but you are right the bare minimum isn't where you should stay
    i was just pointing out that 450 for a minimum wasn't really that bad

    hope i didn't errk you to badly
     
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  19. Vosse

    Vosse Well Known Member

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    BOTTOM LINE HERE.


    IF you want to Emulate the Gamecube/PS2,
    Get either an LGA1366 Processor or a Corei5/Corei7 LGA1155 processor. And use SSE4.2 Optimized builds of Dolphin.(AMD Processors are near useless for PCSX2)

    And use at least a GTX 460 and above from Nvidia(Or a 6850 and above from AMD) for constant 60FPS @1080p (rendering @ 1080p for PCSX2, not above like 2560x1440, though a lot of PS2 games will run perfect rendering at that)


    You can get a Corei7 950 that can overclock to 4+Ghz for 250$ brand new now(I got mine 240$ back when it was going for over 300$+)

    And if you look in the right spots you can get a 1GB 460(not the SE version or 768) for under 150$ used.


    Make sure you overclock and get the most out of both your CPU and GPU(CPU will need Aftermarket cooling though, it's not expensive).
    because it WILL make a difference.




    Buy this power supply, it's cheap , high quality and very reliable
    http://www.amazon.com/Corsair-Enthu...5AZY/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1306366914&sr=8-1
    it will give you the headroom you need for a high quality CPU and GPU as well as enough room in the future for upgrades.


    GTX460 for 145$
    http://cgi.ebay.com/MSI-N460GTX-CYC...=PCC_Video_TV_Cards&hash=item45fac91c7b&vil=1
    One of the best models too.

    http://www.amazon.com/Intel-Process...TF8&coliid=I11OVZDRHETO6O&colid=2ST0B6S3ILVMC
    As low as 179$


    Case
    http://www.amazon.com/Cooler-Master...7YTA/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1306368361&sr=8-1


    Mobo
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131711R
    Same as
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...711&cm_re=ASUS_P8H67-M-_-13-131-711-_-Product

    Ram
    http://www.amazon.com/Patriot-240-P...UTF8&coliid=IMVY3UU9IQ4ME&colid=2ST0B6S3ILVMC

    Don't know if you need a hard drive, keyboard/etc whatnot

    It will cost you more than 500$
    For sure, but it will be worth it.
     
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  20. Xeauron

    Xeauron Intrepid Member

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    Wouldn't it just be easier to buy a PS2/gamecube/xbox and stuff them into a PC case? cheaper too... :)
     
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