Check your PSONE discs now! CORROSION issues!

Discussion in 'Repair, Restoration, Conservation and Preservation' started by ASSEMbler, Jul 13, 2011.

  1. Bad_Ad84

    Bad_Ad84 The Tick

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    You are supposed to create backups from your own media - not download them (even if you own them) to stay legit with "fair use".
     
  2. derekb

    derekb Well Known Member

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    I recall D2 not being properly backed up until a 99min image was used. Even then some people couldnt use it cuz of the mentioned problems in writing to the non standard media. I'm not really sure if support for them was ever properly adopted across the board
     
  3. wmd

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    This problem is exactly why we need a WODE equivalent for the PS1.
     
  4. APE

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    That is under the DMCA, being Haunted is Australian who knows what regulations are there but you can bet they make the DMCA look tame.

    Unless by "soon" you mean when you spend 6-8 years at Uni and stop creating multiple threads in the PS Dev section hoping for information handouts to string together into a working product? Then yes.

    Looks like I won't bother collecting Playstation games except for the artwork.
     
  5. H360

    H360 Familiar Face

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    Then that is what I shall do!

    I wont give up!!
     
  6. KH2K4

    KH2K4 Spirited Member

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    Or use a console based emulator such as CubeSX, WiiSX, PS2PSxe, BleemCast etc.
     
  7. H360

    H360 Familiar Face

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    Boring.

    The point is to make the PlayStation officially reverse-engineered and hacked. Mainly, so I can claim it as the first to do it and get on Hack-a-day, Gizmodo etc...

    It is also good for playing the original games of course.

    So for example Resident Evil, Tekken, Oddworld: Abe's Oddysee, Klonoa, Final Fantasy, Bust a Groove and many many more will load extremely fast and stay in synch. It will also remove the issue of the 'video playback'. So the .STR's will not destroy your laser or be de-synched.


    The truth is that the lasers and gearing are dying in the PlayStations. It has to be done.
     
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  8. wmd

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    All flawed. Each and every one of them.

    The best solution to this problem is an ODE for the original hardware.
     
  9. KH2K4

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    Have you even tried WiiSX? PS2PSxe was just a little teaser more than anything else it's nowhere near compatible with games yet, BleemCast well that was defunct years ago.
     
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  10. Consumed

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    I don't know if it's been improved but the last time I tried WiiSX round at a mates house I was getting at best 10 fps with Motor Toon GP 2. I just don't see the point in emulating the PSX on anything other than the PSP or a PC. Yes, some games look very nice via Bleemcast but is that reason enough to rape the shit out of your DC's laser?

    Why, exactly? The units are in such plentiful supply and so cheap as to be disposable. When one fails you just cannibalise what you can, bin the rest and move on to the next console. It's the same with the Saturn, the Dreamcast, the original Xbox and the PlayStation 2, there are more than enough units to far and away supply demand.
     
  11. H360

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    So SEGA shipped say, 10.6 million Dreamcasts worldwide. Lets say, the .6 million were damaged, faulty and or destroyed. That leaves us with 10 million units left.

    Soon, that number will drop as non tech-savy users bin them as you say. So lets go down to now 9 million working and running perfectly fine. Sure, the US will have more then enough but what about me as an Australian, or even in New Zealand on a small island.

    Eventually that number will drop. Lower and lower everyday. SEGA does not make spare parts for them that I know of and I dont know any console that can play dreamcast games backwards compatible like the PS2 with PS1 games.

    Your saying, you would rather open your console and install spare parts from some other persons console when you would just save the laser assembly and use a SD card / HDD to play your classics.

    This argument is invalid. Why dont you tell this to Krikzz with the Everdrive and tell him to stop wasting his time and to sell spare parts from used consoles?
     
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  12. Consumed

    Consumed Fiery Member

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    This argument is invalid? Are you pissed? There's a world of difference between repairing and restoring broken or faulty consoles and creating a cartridge that when it all boils down to it is just another pirate device for running illegal ROM's on genuine hardware, it's just an alternative to floppy based copiers like the Pro Fighter or Magicom etc. His creation in no way does anything but perpetuate piracy.

    If you can't see the difference then I'm afraid you're a fucking idiot.
     
  13. H360

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    lol :p

    Lets keep it on topic now for ASSEmbler...
     
  14. tails92

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    I mean, I buy the original cartridge of Megadrive era games I like if I can find them cheap, but to say I wouldn't download them is insane. If there's something bad about the Everdrive is not what it does, which is letting you get the most of a device your enjoy, but the absurdely insane price. I bet that with $70 a pop which Krikzz requests in Ukraine he's going to be very rich compared to the general populace.

    Consumed, you are as shortsighted as humanly possible. "Disposable", "plentiful supply", that's why the current "Western" society sucks so badly.
    I would already be playing with the idea if I had enough experience (not uni, I'm sorry! you don't need uni to do everything!).
     
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  15. H360

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    From knowing you Tails, you would outsmart the UNI teachers ;-)

    You are a legend! :thumbsup:
     
  16. Consumed

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    Let me see if I've got this right. It's ok to buy or create a device so that you can play ROM's or ISOs on a certain console but it's wrong to take parts from 2 faulty units to make one good one? Alright then, genius, what pray tell me do you do when the unit you're using these devices on breaks, develops a fault or just plain dies? Do you shop around like I do and buy one of the ''plentiful supply'' to either replace or repair your broken unit or do you think 'Oh well, that's the end of my PlayStation gaming as my PSX has died and it would be so wrong of me to even deign the thought of buying another'?

    Another dickhead. I wish people would think before they typed.
     
  17. APE

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    And this is a big part of the reason why if you were to drop off this boards nobody here would shed a tear.

    Quit spamming this board with useless dribble! I have yet to see a single post from you where I didn't roll my eyes for one reason or another making me question why I bother visiting this place if I once came here eagerly looking for new information only to find someone going around pissing off users because of their own 16 year old ego and misplaced enthusiasm.
     
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  18. tails92

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    You didn't understand what I said well, I said that thinking that a device like that is just for piracy and that it shouldn't be done because one can cannibbalize parts from other systems is shortsighted *NOT* that fixing a system with parts from another system is wrong. I fix things like that all the time, but for the PlayStation it really isn't a permanent solution due to its poor and proprietary CD drive.

    I myself have six playstation in various functioning states - some are broken, some have a CD drive in bad state, etc.
    The choice of your words, though, shows your level of maturity very well. Congratulations to who discovers your level of maturity (or, what, it is so obvious at this point).

    Haunted, yeah, I think that at this point you've gone too far with opening all these topics and that you must learn to think yourself.
    Having a "lot" of information on mundane items like controller revisions, etc. is not of much use and does not benefit anyone. What about not talking about your projects before you've started working on them since a while?
     
  19. Nintendawg

    Nintendawg Rapidly Rising Member

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    As has already been said, the black (well dark blue) surface colour has nothing to do with copy protection. I don't think it even offers further scratch resistance. I remember hearing back in the day that thet were black just so consumers could easily identify a pirate game.

    So say your at your local markets and you see a PS1 game. If you are too dumb to notice all the other signs a game is counterfeit you can just flip over the disc and instantly tell. I think that was the idea.

    Related, aged about 11 I got a CD-R that was black on the bottom. I used it to burn a "boot disc" ISO I got off some shady late 90's warez site.

    Being black underneath I expected it to work on my unmodded playstation but of course it did nothing:-(.
    :lol:
     
  20. splith

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    The black bottom on the PS1 discs is a scratch resistant coasting they apply, I know because I got given 2 blank CDRs with the same stuff on the bottom (looked just like a PS1 disc) and the information on the back mentioned it being added as a form of scratch prevention.

    Don't think I wrote to either of them, and I've got them laying around here somewhere.
     
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