concerns anger and strange things against simpl human rights

this is offtopic so now i think i want to say some things

that concerns me and pisses me off plus the simple human rights are broken again and again tha USA does and many other countries

ok the thing that makes me so pissed is this i know a girl

who has that problem she is transsexual (she needs the operation to be a woman)

and one i know hates gays and the "likes" because of a experience in his past , and that is just ... "so fucking what arsehole go fuck yourself !!! you stupid gay hater and go in to some therapy " (that is the thing i think of him)

and the other one is a stupid chav from Liverpool and he is pissing me by making TS jokes and that pisses me off too

but every person has a right to be the person they are and not what people thinks

and then my anger are the following why can people do things against the prisoners on guanotanamo ? like the danish citizen that was a prisoner untill reasonly ? like beating them and chaining them ?

so i think this every time i experience that kind of break of the simple rights of people

like being different or for that matter be a prisoner makes people go crazy on them like hating them ? (gays bi´s or for that matter transexuals and prisoners ?) and beat the shit out of or hunting in to cemetaries and even feel the urge to make lies about them ?

give me your thoughts about it.

p.s.

one of the worst and stupid reasons i heard why to hate gay people was they spread AIDS and that was from the chav in Liverpool as a joke.

Peace
WolverineDK

as for my own sake i can say i do not hate gay bi TS or prisoners.

 

I saw picture of the Danish prisoner before at home holding his son and for what. Without that concentration camp or whaterver their calling it there wouldn't be something anchored in reality that can be easily updated to drive the terror coverage hungry media so that this warmongering can be less blatantly and more subtly promoted.

 

The idiots from Liverpool are called SCALLIES not Chavs. Or better still, I call them Fucking Nobheads. Seems more fitting some how. I hated seeing all of them with their stupid frowning faces and short, short hair cuts and thick as shit expressions when I went home.

Yakumo

 

Scallies and limeys? The Brits lucked out when it came to all the good pirate nicknames it appears :-(

 

I tried to type a message but failed 5 times. Anyway we have homosexuals members and no one can tell/notice. Its idiots that make us loose faith in the human race. :angry

 

and its a really good member must i add. :smt023

 

Actually I could list 5 members who fall into that "category", but I wont.

 

heh, im flaming, and most people dont give me issues, at least most dont. the only ones that would prolly care is my parents. and I dare not speak of it for fear of them kicking me out. Though being a furry doesnt help much either... i feel like i live a double life.

 

I quite don't understand purge. Are you pissed that people are making fun of other people who are different?? All I can say is, let them say it, they're idiots anyway, stay away from people like those.

 

not quite like that, I am more afraid than angry. People can say what they want, but when they take action, now that scares me. Words I can take but things like my parents kicking me out... I don't want to deal with. So I always have to find excuses, fake girl friends, and the lot to convince them otherwise. It's hard to stay away from your parents too :/

 

Purge: my female friend has the same problems they really want to kick her out too (mostly her father) and if it will be necessary

i would seriously consider making her my flat mate in my apartment.

and other things that are similar to you

so i hope you got a mate who can help you out if your mother and father kicks you out because you are gay

and as i see it you can also be quite flaming as a straight man.

 

Purge, I couldn't really understand the point of your rage at first. I thought it was all about some idiots giving your transexual friend a hard time. Now I understand the full picture or at least I do. Your mother and father want to kick you out of your home because you are gay? That's so sad if true. I know my mother and father would be completely shocked if myself or one of my brothers turned around and said that we were gay but I'm sure they wouldn't kick us out.

Why do your parents have such stong feelings against gays? Have they ever talked about it? It's not my place to say this but they are not what I'd call good parents if they have no valid reason for being against gays. I know 3 or 4 gay people. two of which I worked with and one became a very good friend while the other was an arse hole but that had nothing to do with him being gay, he just was an arse hole. The other guy was really creepy though. He's always try to touch my mates arse and so on. maybe this is the image of gays that your parents have. If it is, then you have to set them straight and show them that gay men are just the same as straight men apart from their sexual preferance (sp?)

Yakumo

 

Yakumo: If they find out , he is very afraid they will find out and kick him out like a stray dog.

and reasons could be (although i can´t see any reasonable reasons) they are fanatic christians , muslims , or other religious people that does not like gays or something else or too old fashioned people

but i won´t jump on any toes to get the answer.

 

Some people don't like gay people but don't know why. Society has always ridiculed them, so it's hard for a lot to be accepted for who and what they are.

In work today, I was in a seminar on "Freedom of Information" and one of the speakers was, in all fairness, an obvious transsexual. 6'1" with a strained but still deep voice, receeding hairline and the build of a rugby player. I admired her for doing a job where she has to be in front of hundreds of people every day, being the sole focus of their attention. Sure plenty of people may walk away from these seminars and laugh at her, but it takes a lot of courage to be able to say "yeah this is me, if you don't like it, tough shit".

One of my mates in work has just left, he is gay but people in work beat down (verbally) on him for so long he couldnt take it. Rather than go to his manager about it, he just took it until it almost made him ill. He didn't want people to see it getting to him.

I can totally sympathise with what people here have said, and I do think talking about it can help. Sure in some cases it ends badly, but if you can't be yourself around people, then you shouldn't be around them.

 

Same thing happened to my friend Spud Sedition (who was in a band called Order of the Eye for a little while, got pretty big until they kicked him out) His dad is a Baptist Preacher, and when Spud made the mistake of comming out of the closet he was out like a light in less than a day. Very fucking Christian of you there dad.

However, it was problably for the best as he's now surrounded himself with people who don't give him any hassle and has managed to make some kind of life for himself. So I guess it comes down to how much you love those who couldn't give a shit about you vs. how much you want to get the hell away from them.

There's a lesson here every young person should learn: Your parents and "friends" are only people and have faults like everyone else, and there's only so much you can do before you just have to leave- and another lesson I know quite well: absence makes the heart grow fonder.

I know it's cliche but it's true, I used to fight with my parents and shit all the time when I was a kid, but now that I don't acutally live with them (notably my dad) when I come over it's the red carpet treatment. "Great to see you, stay for dinner, stay the night, blah blah blah" You were'nt saying that shit when I was 17 and you were constantly fucking with me, DAD.

So just tell your friend to buck up and get through it, becasue one day when she's gone her parents are going to be sorry and will kiss her ass whenever she decides to vist them.

 

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I have no problems with gays unless they give me a reason to (such as trying to "play" with me). I'm actually friends with a lesbian and try to talk to this other gay guy at school (I don't think he likes me very much, though). I really think it's the "flaming homosexual" image most people get, and I can understand why they wouldn't like it, but I don't understand why they can't just deal with it.

I hope no one takes anything I said the wrong way, as it's just opinion. :smt023

 

Something everyone here needs to keep in mind is that while yes, some people don't really know why they dislike gays or homosexuality other than because it's different, many people the world over have very strong religious reasons for condemning homosexuality (although telling someone you're going to burn in hell for being gay isn't cool) and that these traditions have existed for millennia. Agree with it or not, these views need to be respected just as much as people who are gay/transsexual should be respected for their lifestyle. It's a two way door.

I'm not bringing this into a big religious discussion, I'm just stating that there are indeed valid reasons for people to be opposed to homosexuality (again, there's a difference between disliking the practice and disliking the people) and that not everyone who disagrees with these lifestyles is a gay-basher, a hater or a bigot.

 

Too true Greatsaintlouis.

Yakumo

 

The thing most people dont get is that homosexuals aren't like proctologist's, they dont just wake up one day and say "I think I Will be gay".

 

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