Dental costs in japan ?

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  1. cyberguile

    cyberguile Dauntless Member

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    Hi !
    I'm currently trying to compare the dental costs around the world but I can't read japanese at all making it very difficult for me to find informations about japan.
    I have found a couple of website talking about this but they are wether very incomplete or written in "japanese english".
    Anyone knows how dentistry works in japan and where to find the average costs ?
    Btw, looking for the same informations about south korea :p
    Regards
     
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  2. Yakumo

    Yakumo Pillar of the Community *****

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    What are you getting done? A standard check up will be about 600 yen. A filling (Takes about 3 visits!) is about 1200 yen a time. Prices aren't that bad, it's the stupid way dentistry is conducted in Japan. I won't go one about it but I'm sure there's a thread on here somewhere.
     
  3. Tatsujin

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    But Yakumo, your talking about a in japan employed person, which only pays a 30% retention (if not further insured). For a visitor you have to calculate about the tripple of your said, at least.
     
  4. cyberguile

    cyberguile Dauntless Member

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    So there is some sort of national health insurance that takes charge of 70% of the costs ?
     
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    In case you are fix employed (with contract and all the stuff) then yes.
     
  6. Giel

    Giel Intrepid Member

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    Braces are incredibly expensive, from what my friends told me it can easily run you up to a 100.000Â¥. Also explains why there's so many people with bad teeth out there..
     
  7. cyberguile

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    3 visits for a fing filling in japan it takes 2 hours at most here in the states
    let alone in socialist Europe with its long ass wait time just to see the doc of any sort

    let me guess an oil change at the dealership takes 3 hours and 2 visits?
     
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  9. Yakumo

    Yakumo Pillar of the Community *****

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    Oh yes, the prices I quoted are for people with national health insurance (Pretty much everyone with a real job). As Tatsujin said, you need to add 70% to the prices I quoted.

    @angelwolf71885, Japanese dentists are a joke. You really wouldn't believe what a joke they are. EVERY western person who's experienced going to the dentist in Japan will tell you this.
     
  10. GaijinPunch

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    There are generally two types of dentists in Japan:
    -Japanese ones
    -Foreign educated Japanese ones (although you may find the oddball westerner)

    Japanese National Healthcare generally doesn't cover the foreign educated ones. It apparently is a fuck job for the Japanese guys, so they will only clean a quarter of your mouth at a time. Total cleaning = 600 yen or so per visit x4. 2400 yen and about 3 hours total (plus travel time). Some of us have real jobs and lives, so that plan is almost as fucked up as the Japanese economy and their idea of pornography.

    If you don't mind spending some dough, the western educated ones are basically like getting a real cleaning. 1 trip, 1 cleaning. Done deal. Pricey though. I go to a guy in Moto Azabu and a cleaning is about 18,000 yen. It's worth it though as it's a real cleaning. When I moved back to the states after only going to Japanese doctors I had serious gum issues. I also got a wisdom tooth pulled by a Japanese guy and it was the single most painful experience of my life. The cost doesn't bother me that much. My cleanings were never covered in the states, so I'm used to $85-$100. Just like everything else, it's pricier here.

    Google "Japan with Kids" for an idea of foreign dentists.

    There is rarely a wait time in Japan...especially for something as trivial as a cleaning. The US (and even Europe) could learn a lot from the system. They really have done a few things right. Insurance is affordable, and it prevents people from getting completely blown out of the water by the bill. There is no wait. However, there is quirky bullshit like I mentioned above. The over all quality of the doctor is wonky as well... the patient really has to do research. The other upside is, you can always pay up and get private insurance if you want better coverage. International carriers will cover international dentists/doctors and the like.

    As I have experienced both sides of the coin, I will never dis Obama's decision to go NHS. There are quality issues here, but when it comes down to it, nobody in Japan has ever gotten fucked by an insurance company. Not all Americans can say that.

    Hmm... the math doesn't work that way. Your price quoted is 70% of the total price (kokumin kenkou houken). There's also Shakai Houken which covers 80%, but the monthly premiums are higher.
     
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  11. cyberguile

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    Socialist Europe? Are you trying to troll? :rolleyes:
     
  13. GaijinPunch

    GaijinPunch Lemon Party Organizer and Promoter

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    He's just being American... where the norm is to lambaste something that isn't fully understood.

    EDIT: Which is just about everything other than gravy and bullets.
     
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  14. cyberguile

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    well, NHS seems a bit socialist.
    not to talk about the french health service which is definitely socialist (I'm french, working in health service :p )
     
  15. tails92

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    Thank God for socialism. The best way to run a state, it's what government is supposed to do.

    It is only a matter of time, America (as in the US) will be *socialist*.
    Democrat/Republican turnism ain't gonna last forever.

    That said NHS is one thing the US really needs. But it needs a more complete form of it. It's absurd that many people can't cure a simple cold just because they can't afford it due to the health agency/doctors/whatever wanting hundreds of dollars for basic things.
     
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  16. Hawanja

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    You know angelwolf, the more you talk about the evils of socialism, the more I am convinced you do not know what the hell you're talking about.

    Let me tell you a story about Japanese dental care. Last November I had a cap fall off. I went to get it fixed. The cap was busted and I needed a new one. The cost to me, without dental insurance? $1400.

    A friend of mine was in Japan with his wife about 4 years ago when the same thing happened to them. She got a new cap, and when it came time to pay the dentist actually bowed and apologized to her, as since she did not have Japanese dental insurance he was going to have to charge her something. Guess how much it cost her?

    $25

    Twenty five stinking dollars, to do what here cost me $1400. That is 5500% INCREASE between "socialist" Japan and "The best system in the world" America.

    So please, knock it off with the phony-baloney anti-socialist diatribes. Obviously something is fucked up in this country when someone can't even get their teeth fixed without taking out a second fucking mortgage.
     
  17. GaijinPunch

    GaijinPunch Lemon Party Organizer and Promoter

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    While Japan's system is ridiculous in many ways, the US's is laughable in just about every other way... the most hard hitting one the price. I went to get a drip when I dehydrated on a fucking plane. Worst flight of my life (Las Vegas to Honolulu). Yeah... drank a bit too much.

    The cost: $1000 for the ER trip and drip. Another $250 a few months later for the "doctor's fee"... long after I had filed the papers with Japanese NHS (and my Credit Card which also covered some). Hilarious, no?
     
  18. handofg0d

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    For the insurance companies, it is.
    They're laughing all the way to the bank :thumbsup:
     
  19. Japan-Games.com

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    It really doesn't matter where you are from. No one can afford healthcare anymore because of the costs, and it doesn't really matter if you're paying money to an insurance company or to the government.

    Now, back on topic.... I've been to quite a few dentists in Japan and I can pretty much confirm what everyone says. Expect multiple trips but a low cost. Insurance? No clue...I use private insurance which doesn't cover dental. In the end it doesn't matter. I think the most I ever paid in my life for dental service in Japan was about 5,000 yen to have one of my wisdom teeth pulled (agree on the painful part...it was one of the bottom ones).

    I can sum up Japan's dental care with the initial conversation I had with a dentist once:

    Me: Hello, I'd like a teeth cleaning.

    Dentist: All of them?
     
  20. GaijinPunch

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    Hmm... I would not agree. Insurance costs in Japan are extremely affordable for everyone except the dirt poor. They're somewhat weird the way they're applied is all. I would say that the care provided is dodgy at times, especially if you're used to the American system, but you've got the option to pay up for better care if you want to.

    Totally the same. I never get dental covered, other than like real damage. Cleanings I always pay for, and they're like $80-$100 in the states anyway. Similar here. No biggie.
     
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