Dirge Of cerberus or,if you whant,another ff7 sequel/prequel

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Considering the number of people who bought PS2's just for the FF series it would be a VERY stupid move. The PS2 has a greater user-base and as I already stated many people bought PS2's just for the FF games.

Yeah and so does the PS2. Look at GT4 and Killzone for example. If the FF series was all about graphics don't you think they might have stuck 7 on the N64 instead of moving to Sony?

It's not that wierd considering Square has made a fighting game before that had some FF characters in it (Ehrgeiz). From a business perspective it's a fairly smart idea to slap the FFVII name on it because it is guaranteed sales as well.

 

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I said I would like to see it on the GC. Also, FF fans will follow the series anywhere. If the next FF number game in the series is released on the GC, all of the FF fans will buy a GC just for the game. Trust me.

Yes, but the PS2 just does not have the power that the GC has. Another thing, I think it is absurd that your are using a game that is not even released yet, GT4, to make this comparison. Also, I think the GC could do those games easily. What about Metroid Prime, F-Zero GX, and Zelda: TWW? The "original" FF7 was being developed for the N64, but they scraped it and started fresh on the PSX. Why? Because the PSX used CD's and the N64 used carts.

 

Well, technically, they have done it twice already, with Final Fantasy X-2 as well as the other FFVII prequel announced, Before Crisis.

Shit, it's gonna suck.

Wait, what does this sound like.... oh, Devil May Cry, right. No doubt, the suckage is assured.

It depends on if you were nice enough to go wake him up or not. :smt043

I'm sorry, if this truely is a Devil May Cry-style game, I'm thinking it's going to suck hardcore. Aside from the unimaginative gaming media blowing their load over Dante's every move, it was neither a very innovative nor a very fun game (and how about them cameras, eh?) and I really hope that the Final Fantasy franchise and Vincent's image isn't tarnished with a game of this style, despite him being the original gunslinger-who-turns-into-a-demon, which is almost becoming a genre of itself now (The Suffering, Shin Megami Tensei Nocturne or whatever, DMC 1 and 2, etc.)

 

Correct me if I'm wrong but have they not released a special Toyota demo and GT4 Prologue? :smt083

It has been discussed many times and the general concensus is that they never really started it on the N64 and it was only a tech demo using FF6 characters and what happened to gameplay over graphics?

I know that they opted for the PS1 for the storage of CD's but they managed to cram things like Resident Evil 2 on a cart. If they really wanted the extra horse power they could have stuck it on the N64.

It doesn't matter if all the fans do, the main audience is on the PS2 and moving it to the GC would mean many pottential sales lost which means LOWER profits, which is the opposite of what companies want. See where I am going with this?

 

I didn't know about it. Was it only released in Japan?

Yes, gameplay is better than graphics, but to me there is nothing worse than a horrible looking 3D game. Not saying that PS2 produces horrible graphics, I was blown away by the quality of Jak and Daxter.

I think the main reason that they went the CD rout is for music quality. They wanted the best music quality they could get. Carts couldn't compare with CDs. Not to mention, if FF 7 was on a cart it would have been expensive.

Yes, I see. But what about games like Metal Gear Solid: TS? Why did they (Konami) not remake it for PS2 instead of GC. My point is that it is not entirely impossible. :smt023

 

Nintendo has no more chance being as cozy with Square and thus being the home of FF as it used to be than SEGA does getting cozy again with EA.

It's over, people. It has been since 1996. Face it.

Ehhh? Come on now, man, I do not follow the PS2 release scene at all and even I know that GT4 Prologue was released ages ago in Japan and then in EU as well. Come to think of it my brother has the butt-ugly ceramic white Gt4 Prologue PS2.

 

Konami just published it. It was developed by Silicon Knights (developed Eternal Darkness) because Kojima was busy with the real money maker, MGS 3 for the PS2. If it was intended to be more than just a redux then I'm sure Hideo Kojima would have done it himself and released it for the PS2 as well.

Prologue was released in Japan and Toyota was giving away a special demo disc in the US.

 

Oh for the love of God! FF7 uses crappy MIDI music, as does FF8 (and who knows maybe FF9 too but I havent played it yet). The FMVs take up waaaay to much space on the, already numerous, discs to cram in CDDA music.

 

I even have a few FF7 tunes on my samsung mobile and they sound exactly the same as the do on my tv , and my phone only has 40 tones polyphonics and no cd-quality output so i doubnt that was the reason they used cd's.

The FMV is the main reason there's 60+ minutes of it in the game that's why it was released on the ps1 instead of the n64 because we all know that the n64 can't produce the FMV that the ps1 can..

 

heY! i love the boss battle theme. what did you honestly think of it when you got it? its not fair to compare it with todays games...

and about moving ff7 to gc...maybe some casual people, and "fans" will buy it. how many "fans" are there...? multiply that by $150 for gc and game. :smt042 :smt042 :smt042

 

Don't get me wrong, the actual melodies are pretty cool (Laguna fight theme in FF8 :smt023 ), but it's just sequenced, not arranged - just like .mid files on the PC.

 

yeah, as well as a sequl movie for ff5, i know this , but i don't really like this... i don't say those sequels are bad or good , because i've never played them or saw them , but at the end of the game , that would be fun if it was the real end.... and the start of the game , to be the start.

''Yes! i've saved the wolrd and there's no more Bad guy that whant to destroy it!!''

-1 year later-

''Shit ! there's a new evil that will try to destroy our world! i must stop him!''

that's a bit weird ... don't you think?

yes, but ff7 is another story... ljust look at the fmvs....

squaresoft whanted to evolve , they whanted cds ... and nintendo didn't responded to this evolution.... square choosed the path of sony .

now nintendo have cds, and i think they will return to nintendo . not now , that's sure , because they still make big money on the ps2 that they couldn't receive on a gc, but square will make others games on the gc , and that will boost the sales of gc. more the gc is poupular , more they will whant to make games on it. that's just a matter of time. maybe square will not let go sony but they will certainly begin a new page with nintendo. square will maybe not choose between two paths , maybe they will make one in the middle of the two?

 

As for when this game takes place 1 year after ffVII movie(source is magic box). However, for now square is mostly exclusive to sony, but from the recent release of ff crystal chonicals and ff1+2 for gba they are slowly going back to nintendo. There main stay with sony is due to market lead, what would help nintendo out alot is if a final fantasy sequal would appear on cube, such as the upcoming one, it's really all about the way the market is, since ps2 is supreme at the moment more companies make games for it, however if nintendo can make their next system a very close second, they might be able to reclaim their throw, don't forget that developers seem to frown on using mutiple discs for cube(it seems apparent as alot try to squeeze so much in one disc).

 

Nintendo coming a close second in the next round of consoles is highly unlikely. They don't have anything like the money reserves that their competitors do. Microsoft have bought their way from complete public ridicule into second place (in public awareness at least, wordlwide sales figures haven't been released in some time). Next time Microsoft will throw even more money at it because they're gunning for Sony. Microsoft spent 500 million dollars alone on advertising for Xbox. While Sony struggle to compete with that, Nintendo don't have a fucking chance.

Why would they? Piss off the market leader and not get much sales in the process... Crystal Chronicles was the probably last time Square will do a FF game for a Nintendo console. Too few people bought it because too few people have GC and GBA together. It was exactly the excuse Square was looking for to not have to bother with Nintendo again.

So why aren't they all on Gamecube already? Also, what percentage of the market do you really think is FF-hardcore enough to justify spending all that extra cash on hardware they don't really want?

 

Well, I don't keep up with curent gen import stuff, so honestly I didn't know. I might have heard about it before, but I didn't care enough to remember.

 

well, i wouldnt consider the "crystal crhonicles" as the last ff game on a nintendo console.
what about the gba? they are already working on ff1+2 on it.
and im sure 3(6) will be on it. or the REAL 3. having the real 3 on it would be better.
and before you go "GBA is a handheld!" i have heard it considered handheld or console.
so real ff fans would want everything, so they need a gba for all its ff games, and since they have a gba they should go ahead and shell out $50 for Chrystal Chronicles.

 

you are totally wrong on this , in many (read: MANY) intereviews , square said that they are already thinking about another ff for the game cube and they don't think it will be the last one. and what about square and handlheld? square choosed the DS path. they don't think psp will succed and the only project they have for ihm right now is the Advent children movie. Square is planing alot of remakes of the ds and already started on the gba. they whant to make a new seiken densetsu on DS as well as a new ff. i think they are thinking about a seiken game on gamcube too, i don't remember well.

oh, and what about tactic advance and ff 1+2?

 

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calm down , where are just talking about a possible return of squaresoft on a nintendo machine.

 

yeah, but there is like 2 or 3 sony fanboys on this topic. and some severely misinformed ones at that.
chrystal chronicles being the last ff on nintendo machine? what a joke. only a sony fanboy wouldnt know about the less advertized gba ffs. they probably only "know" about ffcc through tv commercials.