Discovery: SFX2+ DEV SYSTEM with Super FX 2

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  1. madhatter256

    madhatter256 Illustrious Member

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    Nice Discovery. So I guess this means you own all SNES dev equipment now, right? On to Sega Genesis!
     
  2. subbie

    subbie Guardian of the Forum

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    Anybody know how many ninja's it would take to raid assembler's house? I've only got enough cash to by 1/2 a ninja or a midget ninja. :)
     
  3. ASSEMbler

    ASSEMbler Administrator Staff Member

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    It's a FX2+ with Super FX 2 to clarify. Someday when I work up the courage to, I will pry the mini snes off again and take a pic of the rest of the chips.
     
  4. madhatter256

    madhatter256 Illustrious Member

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    What's the manufactured date on the card?
     
  5. MegaKitsune

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    Wow, that thing is awesome! 0_0
     
  6. d4s

    d4s Robust Member

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    i'm looking forward to that. ;)
    at any rate, awesome find.
     
  7. Borman

    Borman Digital Games Curator

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    Amazing, simply amazing

    As for a raid on Assembler HQ, im in, 3 or 4 AK47s ready too lmao. Kidding, of course ;) Id be honored if Assembler had a get together like he had wanted to do but sickness kept him away.
     
  8. ASSEMbler

    ASSEMbler Administrator Staff Member

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    No serials, no nothing. I can go by the docs is all.
     
  9. Sally

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    Damn thats nice... you couldn't pay me to install that in a pc tho...
     
  10. Jagasian

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    Please work with emulation authors to help reverse engineer and document that piece of hardware. Don't let it waste away in your closet as a collector's item. It can be much more than that. It could be a Rosetta Stone for emulating various aspects of the SNES system and carts.
     
  11. ASSEMbler

    ASSEMbler Administrator Staff Member

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    I thought snes was pretty well emulated already.
     
  12. Borman

    Borman Digital Games Curator

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    So did I. Even starfox 2 seems to work fine now.
     
  13. Flyinghigh

    Flyinghigh Peppy Member

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    the snes emulation is far from perfect...
    SFX emulation still has many bugs same for DSP and so on.
    The emu authors should know exactly what is not perfect at the moment.
     
  14. ASSEMbler

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    There's what? Less than ten fx games?
     
  15. Mark30001

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    I know for a fact that emulation of the SPC-700 sound chip is "good" but not near perfect while having a conversation with the author of SPCTool.

    Maybe reverse-engineering of the SNES Emulator-SE dev could bridge the gap in the sound coding...
     
  16. ASSEMbler

    ASSEMbler Administrator Staff Member

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    I just found the starfox 2 pic on the net, it was the only one that came up on google.
    If you read the title, it says Fx2+ with Super FX 1 and 2. I know the distinction.
    The docs and config are for SuperFX 2 as it was pulled from the dirt trax dev machine that is currently in my basement.
     
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  17. you could argue whether snes emulation is good, ie. properly done

    and as stated, the sf2 rom release claimed it was compiled from actual source and patched to work, though validity of that statement is unknown
     
  18. Jagasian

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    SNES emulation is nowhere near the level of perfection that NES emulation has reached. There is still tons of room for improvement. Compare emulated SNES to a real SNES. As long as you can notice a difference, emulation still has to be improved.
     
  19. Calpis

    Calpis Champion of the Forum

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    I don't know much about the SNES scene but I don't think Assembler's SNES hardware (especially this) would really help anybody with the SNES emulation kinks. Better low level documentation from N would (as well as time for authors to rewrite all the emu WITHOUT the hacks, that seems to be how SNES scene gets things done unlike NES) Since the SFX2 is capable of simply ROM emulation and debugging, I don't have a feeling any emulator author would have a use for it other than a mantle piece as well, unless they want to verify other people's findings against real hardware. I'd think all emulators now have perfect CPU cores, and I'm sure they can emulate all ROM now, with accuracy greater than any external hardware debugger is capable of. I believe that the only hardware that could help out the emulation scene (as far as the core system goes) is early hardware with off the shelf parts and programmable logic (which could possibly be reversed.) If the SFX2 could debug DSP or Super FX, which probably isn't possible externally, then that might be a different story.
     
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  20. Shadowlayer

    Shadowlayer KEEPIN' I.T. REAL!!

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    Amazing find assembler!

    About snes emulation, well I know is better than Genesis.

    About the 3x3 Snes, even if nintendo made it into portable at the time, it wouldnt be smaller than the Nomad, plus we dont know the power consuption, and that coupled with backlite screens and the crappy batteries of the time makes the portable snes more of a desktop console replacement (like those small SMS from brazil).
     
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