I recently looked into what kind of games are on the Ouya and there's alot of 2d goodness on it. Tons of gameboy styled games too even. So even if the Retrode is out of production there's something for me on the Ouya. I'm going to wait for an upgraded Tegra 4 model though which is Supposed to be comming.
I'm not sure what you mean by "if", the Retrode is out of production, it is and is sold out. There was a note that if someone was interested in making more it "starts making sense" at 1,000 units or something like that. Ofcourse you could maybe get one second hand.
As Pat points out, to claim 100% compatibility is just plain stupid, especially considering light gun games and passthrough carts don't work. To me, 100% compatibility means it'll operate the *same* as a real console, not just that it'll run all official games.
Hmm... what about Genesis 3 + 100Hz TV? Real console but no Sega CD compatibility, doesn't run all cartridge games and no lightgun (won't work with 100Hz TV), mono sound. And now compare it with Wii and Genesis Plus GX - lightgun games play very well with zapper, CD games are perfectly emulated, stereo sound, save states etc. But consoles like Retron will never achieve such results because they use cheaper hardware that can't run accurate emulators.
Genesis 3 isn't a real Mega Drive, it's some cheap shit made by majesco with permission from Sega. In my opinion real hardware only counts if it's made by the original manufacturer.
I disagree with that statement as they contain genuine Sega chips. The first revision of the model 3 Contains the 315-5960 SEGA branded GOAC. Which is the same chip used in the model 2 VA4. This is an excellent ASIC which has the least audio noise of all the genesis versions. The only reason it cannot use SEGA CD, 32X and virtua racing is that it is not fully connected. It is still a very good choice if you want to only play genesis carts.
There's a significant amount of "real" hardware that isn't made by the original manufacturer. A lot of pre 1998 Korean consoles All the sharp famicoms - C1, twin famicoms, the titler, the TV/super famicom combo Pioneer laseractive pacs the V- & hi- saturns I think that divers DC was made by Fuji. The panasonic Q... To look at it form the other side, some consoles have some commodity hardware inside of them... Don't count it because it's a hunk of junk. Not because of who made it like the Neo Geo X or some of the tec toy sega stuff... it's officially licensed and it is garbage. it's not garbage because it's made by a third party though.
Do they know yet what emulators are being used within the retron 5? I saw another thread where Snes 9x and GenPlus was the supposed emulators for those systems.
no disrespectin people who like the retron 5, but really can't understand why have to buy a thing that let you play original cartridges through emulation....I simply can't understand it.
Hyperkin tech claims they are coded by themselves but based on open source material/info. Take that however you'd like, I personally think it would be an incredible feat for a small company with limited resources to write emulators for a half dozen systems in such a limited time frame. Eke posted on another forum some games to try that would confirm if it runs GensGX but I personally haven't tried them and I've also heard people claim it was based on Retroarch. The SNES side may be based on SNES9x but I'm not so sure of that. From my experience on the Ouya enabling some video filters caused it to chug while those same filters don't affect performance on the RetroN5.
The emulation certainly isn't written by them. They just used whatever open source emulators they could find and repackaged it to fit pretty in their product. I mean they did do some programming for the product, but it definitely didn't involve actual emulation of any of the platforms. That was all taken from open source emulators definitely. If/when someone hacks the thing it will be possible we'll know for sure what emulators were used.
The Retron 5 has now been pulled as they have been "outed" for using emulation software that violates several licenses. A good write up is here http://www.joystiq.com/2014/09/28/retroarch-authors-retron-5s-emulators-code-violate-licenses/
Why is people hating on the RetroN 5? i mean not that they're saying it in a mean way but basically like saying "why bother with this thing? go get an emulator instead!" it's not okay if someone downloads a brand new game on PC or hacked console for free, but yet if it's a Retro game it's perfectly A-okay? i guess alot of us people supports piracy in some forms of way but yet some of us are against it most of times lol. Yes even though the system is technically a soup'd up emu machine, it still stands out as a great alternative for those that buys the games or owned a few already in the past and don't want to run roms all the time or whatever. So now it leaves me to this particular question... Is the Super Retro Trio (clone system that does SNES/SFC, Sega Genesis/Mega Drive, and NES (maybe Famicom as well?)) better than the RetroN 5? Can it save state or change filter graphics to your liking? Can it definitely run IPS patches on-the-fly?! I'm just very curious to why it matters from the most from people
The main ethical difference between playing a retro game and downloading a brand new game is that the retro game has already earned it's money for the developer and is unlikely to generate much more in the future, whereas the brand new game is still making money for the developer. But that's all this machine does, it runs ROMs, not cartridges. The fact you plug a cart into it is immaterial, it's still an emulator and it's still running ROMs. It may get the ROM from the cart but it's byte-for-byte the same as the ROM you would download. If you have the carts then you probably have the original system to play it on, so why bother with this when you can have the real thing? The main issue at the moment is that they are stealing software from various emulator authors which is causing all the bad sentiment for the system.
Yeah i haven't looked at it that way but i might still get this thing just for ips patching on-the-fly feature added pretty much. And yes i know i could get a Super Everdrive or the overly expensive SD2SNES but even though it might be a bit tad to late to get one cuz i already bought the games that has an English Translation for it out and i have no way of installing that to my carts.
It wasn't really about the piracy. It was about the accuracy. Playing games on this thing (like playing on any emulator) is not the same as playing on the real hardware. Graphics, sound and timing can all be different. So why bother with this? Is inserting a cartridge into its female connector really that satisfying? It's cool that it saves physical space compared to the 5 different consoles it emulates and plugs directly into a TV, but there are cheaper alternatives that do this too.
I just noticed that The Jimmy Fallon Show used a Retron 5 so Mike Tyson could fight him self on Punch Out. Perhaps it served them some purpose to use this particular console (HDMI? Save states?), but I'm surprised as it seems an overly expensive way for producers to play a single game on stage, and it seems obscure for them to even be aware of its existence. Who knows? Perhaps it belonged to someone on the team.
