Do these japanese md games exist?

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  1. wheelaa

    wheelaa FM Towns / MD Addict Site Supporter 2010-2015

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    Everyone knows that Tetris and some of the Acclaim stuff is hard to find and pricey.

    But what's the deal with these games?

    Wolverine, Warlock, Itchy & Scratchy, Sansan and Flashpoint? Were they released? Are copies known to exist?

    The info I have gathered to date is:

    the first three were listed as 'coming soon' in an Acclaim leaflet (which sadly I haven't seen to confirm) but never released. I've not seen any pictures etc.

    nothing whatsoever for Sansan save a mention on another forum and a website (as a result) which reckons it was modem compatible software (although I have heard from several reliable sources that this doesn't exist/is made up?)

    And for Flashpoint, that it was a sega puzzle game (tetris style), but then the tetris lawsuit came along, the md tetris release was canned and flashpoint, which wasn't complete at this point anyway, was canned and unreleased too. Again I've seen no pictures etc.

    So help please.
     
  2. I believe the name on the game was SonSon, which could be part of the reason you're having trouble finding it. I know SonSon 2 was released on the PC Engine, and the original Son Son was on the MSX and later on PSX and Saturn (courtesy of the Capcom Generations compilations), and I'm sure both of them began as arcade games as well, but I've never heard of a MegaDrive/Genesis version, sorry. That doesn't mean it's not out there though, I've just never looked.
     
  3. wheelaa

    wheelaa FM Towns / MD Addict Site Supporter 2010-2015

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    Cheers for that but I do mean SanSan...I have the saturn and pce iterations of Son Son and definitely don't mean those.

    I'm fairly sure something called Sansan doesn't exist for the md..but you never know. Perhaps its an alternative name (or bad translation/understanding) for the Sega Channel modem (cable) cart..but again unlikely.
     
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    *edited for the noobs*

    From what I know the acclaim games came out on the same day and weren't that popular (imagine that, an unpopular acclaim game). Now they cost a bajillion dollars, but I wouldn't pay a cent for them.

    Crap games = low copies = value

    Most of the high dollar Japanese games are low run US games.
    Comix zone for $250? bah, I can get the damn rights to comix zone franchise for probably less. (Yes, I didn't particularly like comix zone)
     
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  5. wheelaa

    wheelaa FM Towns / MD Addict Site Supporter 2010-2015

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    5 Acclaim games came out on the same day..from memory the 5 were Maximum Carnage, Justice League, Batman Forever, WWF Raw and Virtual Bart, and they all cost way more than Comix Zone.
    And yes they are crap but a completist md man like me needs them. Oh and Comix Zone is Sega anyway, not acclaim afaik.

    However this still doesn't help me with the others...any info anyone?

    Plus what's with this disdainful attitude towards md/md collecting....I'm not the MD ffs.
     
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    Cool I have loads on Jap Megadrive games without manuals, how l337 is that, i am on course to have a Megadrive collection more interesting than anyone elses.

    *dies*
     
  7. HOTD

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    Comix Zone was hardly a crap game by any stretch and furthermore was nowhere near an Acclaim game, it was published by SEGA and developed by a SEGA second-party or internal development team.
     
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    Yakumo Pillar of the Community *****

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    Tetris on the Mega Drive does exist. I've seen pictures of it and I'm not talking about that shitty Chinese pirate version. THe official Sega version looks completely different. The cover is red with a picture of the Kremilin (Sp?) in the center. The picture of the Kremilin isn't that big either which makes it look a bit cheap. This version has official instructions as well and as you can expect it goes for BIG money since there are only a few copies out there. 98% of them were destroyed thansk to Nintendo getting the license or something along those lines. A real shame too because the Mega Drive version is miles better.

    Yakumo
     
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    I don't know for sure, but I have an tv promo ad video from way back, I think it has a warlock video on it. Next time I am looking through my dvds I will check.

    BTW I know who the fuck made comix zone. If you're going to reply with noob shit comments, go to ign.
     
  10. wheelaa

    wheelaa FM Towns / MD Addict Site Supporter 2010-2015

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    Re comix zone..Sorry fella..or did you mean the other guy? or both of us:(

    As for warlock..if you ever do get that dvd out please lemme know. I know it got a western release but haven't seen anything about a japanese one, rather the opposite with chaps saying it was never released.

    And here's a piccie of the tetris spine..the others I have are too big to attach, sorry.
     

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    From what I've heard, only prototypes/betas of SanSan, Itchy & Scratchy and Warlock exists, while Flashpoint got an actual release. As far as I know, this is just rumours, so don't quote me on that...
     
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    wheelaa FM Towns / MD Addict Site Supporter 2010-2015

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    Sounds like you have been on Tengokugame to me?
     
  14. Ah, my bad. Never heard of a Sansan before, so I won't be of much help.

    And hey! Comix Zone was awesome!

    As far as the Tetris thing goes, Sega's Tetris on the MegaDrive was a similar fiasco to the well-known Tengen Tetris issue on the NES - at the time of the game's initial release, there were about 3 different companies that somehow aquired licenses to publish the game for consoles. The Sega and Tengen licenses were found to be not valid (I think it was something with a middleman in the licensing process overstepping his authority), and both companies had to recall/destroy the offending carts. Sega was obviously more effective at it than Tengen, though.
     
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    wheelaa FM Towns / MD Addict Site Supporter 2010-2015

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    No no, you good.

    How common is nes tetris these days?
     
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    No idea, perhaps. Got the info off my own memory :)
     
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    Im not even sure how acclaims japanese buisness survived since their games didnt really sell over there and most of the time they did not bother to change the artwork at all, still its funny since in the ultimate hisrtory of video games it reveals acclaims history in which it originaly just imported games from japan and released them here, too bad they didnt just keep doing that we might have got some classics over here.
     
  18. It depends - the Nintendo one can be found kicking around most used game stores for a fairly reasonable price - in fact, if you're looking to pick one up I've got a copy here that I'd like to get rid of.
    Tengen Tetris, while uncommon, doesn't command a huge price. There aren't any on eBay right now, but if memory serves me right they ran somewhere from $25-$35 in price or so.
     
  19. AntiPasta

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    According to Edge, Tengen Tetris is worth 200e if I'm not mistaken... but I guess they're wrong as my local ripoff gamestore has a copy for 60e.
     
  20. wheelaa

    wheelaa FM Towns / MD Addict Site Supporter 2010-2015

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    Yeah..Edge did give Tengen Tetris that value in one of its retro specials iirc..but then said it has been decreasing in value recently too. $25-$35 (thanks to Greatsaintlouis) sounds like a much better price :)


    I think that towards the end of the MD's life Acclaim were just after a few pennies if you know what I mean. They obviously knew the md was on the way out so got really lazy with their last releases (which were also among the very last md games period). They made them on the cheap and in small quantities as they must have reckoned that they could shift a few copies only. Like you mention the artwork was not changed (although the text on the insert and stickers is by and large japanese). The instructions are very poor quality, just black and white print on low grade paper (although some games like Maximum carnage and Virtua Bart did come with a Genesis manual too). And the carts were assembled in Mexico. (I don't know if this was a regular for Acclaim or not though). All of which leads to fairly cheap looking effort free md games:).

    But hey, I love the md so I don't care.
     
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