Dreamcast 2 / LE petition

At least there's one person taking this seriously...

Stranger things have happened, you know.

I'd buy that for a dollar!

 

this would be like me saying "HEY GUYS I JUST WOULD A PLAYABLE N64DD COPY OF MOTHER 3" it's just never going to happen

 

Man i bet if this was a PS2 or PSP getting this treatment, everyone would've loved the idea

 

How much are you willing to bet? I have stuff to fund.

 

Both of them already got sequels, so no. Nobody would like the idea. I get your passion, however, the concept of this stillborn petition is ridiculous. Unfortunately.

 

True, that was actually a bad example, what i meant was the Nintendo 64 & Nintendo Gamecube.

It's just the massive hate i've seen on YouTube that i see people bashing Sega and all it's systems because this topic was brought up recently and i'm kinda sick of it honestly. And i can't take people serious no more or tell if joking.

 

Huh. You're a funny guy.

 

Thanks for the compliment

 

Yeah, because everyone on this forum hates Sega so much. People are just tired of far-fetched attempts to get a new Dreamcast, so this just rightfully got written off as another tired rehash.

 

Lol, not even the point actually but in the sense of respect (yeah every well respected company has it's ups and downs) but to the decimal where you wanna burn or tear down it cuz of a certain toxic fanbase ruined your life or some crap, but gives Nintendo or Sony tons of praise because of some trash-tier commercials they've done in past somehow gives everyone the privilege to not crap on those or don't speak bad about it or your considered a troll mentality every single person on the internet haves nowadays.

I'm utterly surprised YouTubers & 4chan hadn't bad mouth deviant art Mario or Zelda fanfic pictures or DragonBall Z recolors yet. (hmm... I wonder why?...)

 

What are you even talking about? N64 got a successor, the gamecube which you even mention after it. The cube also gone one! the Wii!!

No one is praising Nintendo or Sony. This is a stupid idea, never going to happen and a waste of everyones time.

The amount of money to get this done properly isnt something Sega would spend (if they even have it!) on a console 27k people have signed a petition for. Or it will be some licensed Sega crap (atgames?!) that will just make the Sega hate even stronger.

Anyone who thinks a petition like this will make any difference in 99.9% of cases is delusional.

 

Your right, though the LE part would have tons more people wanting a N64 HD console or Gamecube HD console instead. And no, i in no way talking about the Dreamcast 2 or any sequel console for that matter as i definitely agree it would be an awful idea to waste time on.. BUT an HD type console wouldn't be bad at all! If the SNES & Sega Genesis/Megadrive can do it why not Dreamcast ya know.

And for your information, i'm talking about YouTubers ONLY unless your one of the minority of that circle jerk gaming group then by all means, i can honestly care less then! and just because something was "successful" in one or three countries doesn't guarantee it's perfect cuz it's really not imho.

I could care less about Sony's strategy for marketing clones (if you know what i mean) but hey it works for Call of Duty & GTA amirite? but me personality i ain't for that!

 

I have no idea what half of your post even means. It doesnt even related to anything that was said and I cant form it into a proper sentence no matter how hard I try.

• When did Nintendo release a SNES HD? Or Sega release a Megadrive HD?
• If people wanted a N64 HD (isnt that basically what the Wii U is?), are you suggesting they remake all the games in HD too, rather than make new games?
• What clone is Sony marketing?! and how does a clone relate to GTA or COD???
• What was successful in 1 or 3 countries?
• If you can care less, that must mean you actually care?!?!?!

I really do not understand what your rant is about.

 

I think that with the state of emulation and mobile graphics & cpu processor progression, Sega could make an android device that emulates all the sega systems. They developed Dreamcast on a chip tech but then did nothing with it. They could use that if need be but the DC gpu has distant relatives in mobile tech now and should be utilized. Maybe for native support of sh4 instructions & wince. Add a bluray drive with gdrom support. And finally make versions that look like classic Sega systems; saturn & dreamcast & sega cd. That is literally their best shot imo, a retro game player / android box that could slowly evolve into something. But honestly Sega won't or can't do it. I wish am2 & sonic team would have led a coup in the 90s and fired the dumb managers that put them in the crapper. Sega couldnt save the dc back in the day with 500 million$. All I want(realistically) from Sega is for them to release the Dreamcast and Saturn dev software and docs on making software to the indie dev community. And help out with kos to give the indie devs a boost.

 

Yeah, because pulling devs and having them support indie software development with no conceivable ROI makes tons more business sense than what they did in the late 90's.

The original Katana and WinCE SDKs are widely available and very well documented. The KOS community doesn't want to touch it due to licensing issues and to a lesser extent, ideals.

 

I'd probably buy a limited edition Dreamcast with HD. You never know guys, people said the same about shenmue 3 petitions. And that got a few million on Kickstarter

But this thread should be locked. Sign the petition and hope for the best. Else, this is getting out of hand with GTA and COD starting to be mentioned

 

Isn't there a DC general or chat forum that this could go in? I think all those ideals against using them would melt away if Sega would consent to letting them be used in commercial independent titles and general homebrew. A lot of the ideals come from the sdks out there being "pirate" and they won't touch it.

 

UI (alpha) in action :

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That'd be an nice emulator frontend, but otherwise it's pointless. Even if sega would decide to do that DC2 thing (which it won't), they'd use their own frontend for sure...

 

Sega does not have complete rights to the SDK. Thus, doing anything with it, whether it be releasing source code or allowing unrestricted use, is not entirely their decision to make. Sega's legal team would have to get in contact with all of the legal teams of various companies that licensed their technology to Sega and work together an agreement, all for no monetary gain on the parts of any of these companies. It isn't going to happen.

Now, on a "Dreamcast 2": there is no reason. None whatsoever. The Dreamcast was a cult classic in its time, but as of 2016 there is absolutely nothing novel about the hardware to give us a reason to have a new version of it. The Dreamcast's appeal was a mix of the following four things:
1) Extremely creative and innovative first- and second-party titles
2) Lots of modern peripherals support (light guns, keyboard, mouse, modem/ethernet card, microphone, webcam, etc.)
3) Standalone device with lack of protection/lockout, allowing easy homebrew use for normal people with mods
4) Standalone device easy to program for, allowing easy homebrew development

So let's see how necessary a Dreamcast 2 would be to pass the torch or continue the legacy:
1) Sega's development teams are completely turned over and are a shadow of what the once were, and you don't need a Sega-branded console to get them since they're developing for other consoles now. Original Dreamcast titles can be played on a wide variety of platforms including picking up a cheap used console on eBay, so DC2 isn't necessary for that either.
2) These peripherals aren't novel anymore. Nearly every platform has them.
3) Lots of programmable devices exist without lockout that are way more powerful than what Sega can afford to include in a DC2.
4) Lots of programmable devices exist that are easy to develop for.

So yeah, the only thing DC2 is good for is fanboys' nostalgia, and that's not enough to make Sega any money. Sorry. It isn't happening, it shouldn't happen, forget about it.