Dreamkey 3.0 backup resets Dreamcast, Help

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  1. pedro

    pedro Spirited Member

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    Hi guys, im trying to use a Dreamkey 3.0 backup to acess the internet via my Dreamcast, now i only have a original 2.0 but its no longer compatible, so i went and downloaded a Dreamkey 3.0 from the web and burned using disc juggler, now the disc booted fine but on the main menu when i press "Setup/Manual" my dreamcast just resets, sometimes it wont reset and it will just stay in a black screen. I have downloaded and burn two dumps from the Dreamkey from diferent scenes and none of them work, i dont know if it was a bad burn or these are bad dumps. Anyone has any ideia of what i could be?

    Thank you guys
     
  2. Padoca85

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    Hm bad burn? What program youre using to burn the images?

    Also, theres others better web disks. XDP Limited was the best i used from the ones i tested.
     
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    hi since my last post i had some other things i forgot to mention, i have inded also had other people recomended me the XDP so i did in fact burn it, using Disc Juggler thats what i use to burn my dreamcast games, and XDP also resets my console right after the "Sega Screen" I still dont know what it could be. Also i tested my burns on the Nulldc emulator and they work fine, they boot, they go past the screens where the Dreamcast resets and everything.
     
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  4. HEX1GON

    HEX1GON FREEZE! Scumbag

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    Sounds like a selfboot issue to me. I know my Dreamcast needs to reboot to boot back ups. Try maybe getting another back from some where.
     
  5. pedro

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    well from the dreamkey i got two diferent backups from two diferent scenes the ones i find for download are from the same scenes, and for the XDP i downloaded from the official website and there isnt anyother versions. Im gonna try another browser Planet Web 3.0 and see if it works i just dont know if the setting are gonna be messed up has i have a PAL dreamcast and PAL games and Planet web has NTSC settings
     
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    HEX1GON FREEZE! Scumbag

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    Try getting a PAL backup.. Does that change anything or have you tried it already?
     
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    Well planet web was the browser released only in the USA therefore the settings are prepared for US ISP not EU ISP and yes they are diferent has there are diferent options and settings the most visable is the phone number where you have to add area codes and such and on dreamkey its only a normal phone number.
     
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    Just found another release of Dreamkey 3.0 and it was those optimized ones that are made so that the Dreamcast laser has less stress, where unoptimised dumps have about 800 MB of data where a bunch of it is just trash, this particular release only had 100 MB so again i burned it this time using IMGburn and a 4x writting speed, and gess what, same freaking problem, After i press "Setup/manual" BAM restart. -.- im getting really desperate.

    EDIT: something has passed by my mind, is it required to have a VMU? has i dont have one.

    EDIT2: Planet web 3.0 actualy worked but i still would like to know why the hell dreamkey 3.0 doesnt.
     
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    I do recall it saving stuff to the vmu at the start, but not sure if "needs" to let it load the disc
     
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    nop it doesnt need it, now i have some new info, when i set my settings with the planet web, i tried again my dreamkey 3.0 with the same exact problem, but when i was in the process of making a video about the problem, and i tried my dreamkey 2.0 i noticed that my main menu options had changed to "connect" and "setup" i gess it detects the settings from planet web now, for the weird part, originaly my dreamkey 3.0 wasnt showing any changes but after a few rebots it actualy detected the planet web settings, so pressed connect and i actualy managed to get acess to the dial screen now after i pressed cancel i was hable to actualy edit my isp settings within dreamkey 3.0 and i sucessfuly connected to my dial up isp, now in this time i acess all the dreamkey 3.0 possible screens from bookmark to all the options screens to test it out exept for one screen that i only have acess on the first time configuration of dreamkey and that is the language screen that screen seems that it was causing the reboot for some weird reason. now xdp still doesnt work. This is probably the most weird problem i have ever faced in the dreamcast. -.-
     
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    I had the same problem with my dreamcast. Don't remember if I got rid of all the ISP options saved on the DC or reconfigured using Planet Web 2.x
     
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    Please help

    I have the exact same problem, please help. :((
     
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    Have you tried Planet Web to configure the Internet Settings?
     
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    Yes, but my PAL is Europe so it only uses UK ISP. Planet Web uses USA ISP. I need Dreamkey but it keeps resetting on the part I click configure

    I have just ordered an official DreamKey 3.0 so let's hope this one works better than the bootleg CD I ripped. I will keep you posted when it arrives in a few days.
     
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    With Planet Web you can set up your own ISP, I used it to configure an Australian one, no problems there
     
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    I am from the UK. Planet Web does not support UK Dialup. Dreamkey does, though.

    Our phone connection protocols are different. I'm using a modem for dialup, not network adapter for broadband.


    Planet Web is NTSC.

    Dreamkey is PAL.

    Pal = Europe

    NTSC = Americas and surrounding.

    Planet Web uses NTSC settings, you cannot use Pal with NTSC. This is the basic rule of retro gaming.
     
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    MonkeyBoyJoey 70's Robot Anime GEPPY-X (PS1) Fanatic

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    Actually you can use PAL games with NTSC consoles with mods, hidden settings (Amiga CD 32 has a hidden menu allowing to swap between the NTSC(Canada) and PAL(Europe) regions), or natively (region-free consoles).

    Despite popular belief, the Dreamcast isn't a retro console. It is the one that started the Sixth generation (DC, PS2, GCN, Xbox) and it was released in Japan in November of 1998. Therefore, the Dreamcast counts as a modern console.
     
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  18. cynderusz

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    Unrelated posts are unnecessary. Thank you.
     
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    My apologies. I want to help but I have no experience with Dreamcast online gaming. Do let us know if that dreamkey 3.0 you ordered works.
     
  20. cynderusz

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    A little hope

    No problem. It will be coming to my house in 3-4 days.

    Although, I tried to use public dialup account on Planet Web, and instead of having an error connection, it says "the telephone is busy" so it might be workable!
     
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