DS won, PSP lost...

The trinitron tube is pretty darn close to perfect mate and I have yet to see another tv/monitor that has a better picture than the trinitron crt tubes can produce.I do however agree that their laser tchnology is utter garbage and very cheaply made.Their new range of Tv's such as their LCD and plasma stuff is utter crap compared to other companies high end stuff, and you are also right about some of the ps2 and psx revisions, cheap parts, crap lasers etc...

Still I have to love that trinitron tube, rgb at it's finest. :-D

 

yes, they said it. and you can see it without any comments fro square, look at all the reamkes they whant to make on the ds! they are working for a second christal chronicles , the will make the first remake of ff3, they have many other projects in head too ( remember the poll they have made on wich game they should make on ds?) they wil made a new seiken destsu, the dragon warrior will be on too,.... and for the psp? well, nothing. (oh , well there's this rumor about a UMD advent children.)

square said they where suspicious about the psp... and for now they are with ninty at 100% in the handheld war.

 

hmmmm.
Some people complain psp is trying to be a portable ps2, but the Ds seems to be trying to be a portable N64.

Im not flaming anyone, but it seems hypocritical, really, to judge the psp being a ps2 port machine when Ds is doing the same thing with just another "gimmick" which most of you dont like, yet, you guys still say that it will be better since it has new features.

My point is, all portables will have ports of previous games if its powerful enough. Gba did it, Ds will do it, and Psp will do it, too.

So, in saying this, im pretty sure Sony will have a portable FF7 (it will probably be relased alongside or close to advent children.)

Now, as you know, im no fanboy, and i dont judge systems, i try to get them all instead of wasting my time trying to find excuses why not to buy one of them.

Im even surprized why Microsoft isnt making a portable. They have the funds, and they could make a portable Halo, with maybe wireless connectiviety or whatever to play together.

Nintendo, has been in the handheld business for a long time, but that doesnt mean psp is doomed as soon as it comes out. I guess only time will tell.

just my .02 cents.

 

On the contrary you also need to prove cahaz is wrong by proving Square never said such a thing.

steering this thread back on topic - The DS would win my money IF I was to buy 1 of the 2, but chances are I probably won't buy either :smt043

 

That's ridiculous. You can't prove that they didn't say it - what's the man supposed to do, quote every Square Enix press release since the PSP was announced?

I'm with cahaz's opinion on this one, to a certain degree: Square will certainly be bringing many games to the DS as it's very likely to be a popular platform. I'm sure they'll also have plans for the PSP - they'd be foolish not to.

Same here. Never was much of a handheld fan. Mario 64x4 is tempting though...

 

well, in fact there have been rumors of a handheld console by Microsoft but they have all died down over a year ago... oh and all this talk about DS makes me wonder if Nintendo has any plans with the GBA, I know they explicitly stated it's going to coexist with the DS but that's what Sega said with the 32X/Saturn too :smt009

 

Say what? What the hell kind of concept is that? That's just *utter* rubbish and quite frankly makes no sense whatsoever.

Cahaz claims Square said they doubt the PSP. The logical thing to folow would be for Cahaz to actually quote Square on that - which he consistently fails to. It's not for someone who challenges that to prove Square never said that - I'm not the one claiming something as important as Square doubting a SONY console - cahaz is - and if he can't quote Square on that, then ***where** does he get this idea?

The man can't even so much as **vaguely** state where he has heard this!

You're being absolutely, ludicrously ridiculous here. IF Cahaz CLAIMS Square Enix said taht they doubt the PSP - would he not have read soemthing to the effect in a magazine article, a website article, or the like? Of course. He hardly needs to 'sort through ever Square Enix press release' - if he read this claim somewhere - forget giving, Heaven Forbid, the actual quote - why does he constantly fail to so much as mention WHERE he read this no matter how vaguely?



Undoubtedly something like Square doubting the very console manufacturer their greatest franchsie has blossomed and boomed on would be huge news. Why then, does a search not turn up anything to this effect?

I may as well state that Square said they may develop for the NGAGE - now no one can challenge my statement until they systematically read through everything Square has ever said since the NGAGE launch to disprove this - until then, no one can challenge my claim as false? My ass.

And there you go, Alchy - first you imply Cahaz is likely correct in what he claims as Square Enix saying and ridiculously telling me to prove what he said was not true - and now you use that magical word - opinion.

Cahaz neevr claimed this Square doubting the PSP business to be his OPINION - he claimed repeatedly that Square 'said' it. But opinion and conjecture is all this - clearly - is.

 

And again you shy away form your claim of Square actually saying that they doubt Sony. Why don't you admit that that claim was nothing but **your opinion** and nothing else?

I'm not anywhere near fond of Sony and what I am asking for is clarification of what you state as stated fact. All this bs 'disprove him then' business reeks of pure Nintendo bias. Get over yourselves, people.

 

His remarks were probably inspired by the DIRGE OF CEREBRUS THREAD I MENTIONED EARLIER.

Sounds like an opinion to me. I would like to see some links with some actual proof. In my previous claims, i wasnt so bold as to say "square said...." "sony said...." "Nintendo said...."
They are opinions and its WAY too early to know what some of these companies are going to do. Next year, would be a good time to say stuff, but not now. If they have proof, BTW...

 

Precisely. Cahaz is letting his obvious fierce love (?) for Nintendo cloud his vision as to whatis fact and what is his own conjecture.

 

You claim im wrong. im still searching for what do you whant, and i know they said it. sony is new in the handheld war and they reconciliated with ninty... every analysts doubt of the psp, and their choice in the war is ninty. Why square would not take caution? am i right or they don't develop on the psp right now? why do they develop only for ninty? what i say isn't my opinions... well, its more than this, i know square said it and i'm reading my EMG to search where i've saw this. Now , its your turn , Tell me why i'm so wrong....i'm waiting for your answer.

and why do you say i didn't read this in a magazine or website? do you have any proves of it? can you quote me on this? .... let's go , im awaiting your prooves. That's ridiculous, really.

Uh-oh, you're totally wrong on this. Sony is the very home console manufacturer... but on the handheld market , they are the challengers. they have alot to proove for the psp succes. i mean, look, they don't even comment on the battery life.... there's certainly something wrong behind this. The psp price , and the lack of new serie/game is not so good too. Can't square take some distance before making something?

again, that's ridiculous.
well, first, everyone know there's no cash to make on n-gage. sure, their name is square , but everyone know the n-gage will fall on the floor and won't be able to stand up again near the ds and psp release. uh, sorry , correct me, they are already on the floor.

why square wouldn't try to risk on an incertain handheld? saying the question will answer it.


you know , you're statement are worse. and what you say is ridiculous.

see the facts.

EDIT-

i've found this :

this isn't what i was searching for, but that's still something square said.

what i read was in a EMG, but i don't know wich one... im searchig.

that's not only my opinion, that's the opinion of square.

 

No shit. And all you had to do was say this before all these BS Nintendo fanboysim churned out in self-defense mode.

See how easy that was?

Hardly an opinion that says they 'doubt' the PSP either literally or otherwise. Nor does it substantiate your claim that Square actually said they are suspicious of the PSP - again, literally, or otherwise.

And where's the link for this, please?

 

first, when i said : why square wouldn't try to risk on an incertain handheld? saying the question will answer it.
i was talking about the PSP , not the N-gage.

Second, when i said : See the facts. i wasn't talking about : ''im right, we have all the facts to say that square said that"" i was saying :'' see the facts, you're ridiculous. ''

Third, Here:

this wasn't what i've read, what i read was in a magazine. but this is still what square said.

its not only my opinion, its the opinions of square too.

so.... i guess you can't really counter and say something because you have your quote. and im searching for the other one i've read.

oh, and one last point, i'm not a fanboy by saing this , im just the speaker that repeat what was said. and what i've said was true.

 

You were being beyond ridiculous in your failure to bother providing a quote or even reference of some sort AT ALL with an attitude of insisting all accept your infallible word.

About Square being suspicious and doubtful of the PSP? You've yet to provide the quote or reference to that effect. it's Square's 'opinion' - rather stance - that matters, not yours.

No, there is no quote form you, so yes, I am countering your belief in your infallibility again. Your quote implies nothing - nothing - of Square stating they are 'suspicious' of/doubt the PSP. In fact if anything while it shows uncertainty with what Sony wants from the PSP, it unequivocally says they WILL develop for the PSP.

Again, what you've said is true to only you until you provide actual prof that Square said they doubr/are suspicious of Sony's PSP. The quite you provided implies nothing of the sort. In fact it clearly states they WILL dev for the PSP.

I'll ask again ...can you provide a link for the articale you took that quote from - please.

 

Cahaz, in that quote you found, all they said was that they WOULD develop for it. (psp) and they are also interested in the ds. They wondered if it would be a gaming machine or a walkman, but they arent going to abandon Sony, IMO. The way the quote sounded, it sounds to me like they will make games for both portables. Think about it, would they miss an oppurtunity to make even MORE money? The way the psp is, they might port some playstation 1 and 2 games o it. All the games are made anyway, all they need is to put them on a UMD disc. Im not sure how hard it is to make a game, but already made ones could be made even easier. Porting=more money minus the effort. On the ds, they might make more *new* games, but IMO they will port a lot on the psp and make new games for the both of them, and some might be **exclusive** so that they benefit both game companies. Would anyone like to see another FFT(A)? I would! Im not even sure, why square was wondering why the psp was not a *full* gaming device? Most of their ps2 games are like movies, anyway. :smt043

This is all my opinion, BTW. What's strange is...most of my predictions come true. (j/k)
Strange, somehow i KNEW a portable link to the past, and a 3d metal slug would come out...
maybe im a psycho. I mean, psychic! :smt045

edit: oh yeah! I almost forgot about ff3 being on the DS. I really hope its the (nes)ff3.

 

you don't need to hope , its the Nes ff3 ! :-D

anyway, i don't know why , but everyone say that i said square will never do games on psp, wich isn't the case. They will, sure, but they will not jump on it right now... they aren't sure about about the psp's way...wich will influence if the psp will be a succes or not. keep in mind that sony isn't a flawless compagny, and that they can fail. just look at the psx. and for now, the psp look like to follow or making a similar way to the psx, A multi-media hybrid that cost alot. Alot of players don't need and/or whant to pay akit of bucks for a multimedia console when they know they will use it only for games. they don't whant to pay and use it for the movie player , the mp3 player, the multi-language tra...,.... all those things is added to the price of the psp ... plus, players don't only whant ports.

Just look at square releases... there's no psp games in developement. and then , look at the square DS's list.... If square don't doubt about the psp , made by sony (wich is the leader in the home gaming market) they would make things on the system.

And im not crazy or a liar, i've read that square doubt about the reaction of the public for the psp. why would i lie? am i a fanboy? No. why i'm suposed to be a fanboy by saying what's hapenning? will the psp fail? No. Will the Psp won? Don't know , but i personally
think they won't. Do i still love the psp? Uh... Never played the psp nor the ds. Do the psp still look good to me? Yes. Will i have a psp in the future? probally.

Anyway, Calm down , Id-Republix, REally. I don't know why but you always jump at your guard or attack anyone when they say their opinions , what they've readed and what is real and you don't whant to hear about. Why do you protect the psp like this? don't know.. but after this your treat me as a fanboy. well, im saying what i read , what they tought and what i tought. that's really unfunny and ridiculous in some way.

back to the psp /square/ ds flamewar, we all know square will do something on the psp, they are planning to make a umd versions of advent children...but they don't talk about game , for now...which is kinda strange, don't you think? they will end by making games on the psp... but for now , the are 100% with the ds. they whant to watch before they act.

 

Go back and re-read what I said. My remark was aimed at LeGit. I was actually backing you up - saying that it was difficult if not impossible to prove that Square didn't say something at some point.

Make sure you labour as much time on reading people's posts as you do writing your otherwise very articulate responses.

If you're thinking like that, you're still missing his point. Get a decent link or a scan to back you up and end this silly argument.