Durango hardware

Discussion in 'Xbox 360 Development' started by Shadowlayer, Oct 5, 2012.

  1. HEX1GON

    HEX1GON FREEZE! Scumbag

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    Cheers to that!

    Even though this is Alpha hardware setup. I'd like to afford one of these machines when it hits stores, I'm sure many people are thinking the same.
     
  2. GodofHardcore

    GodofHardcore Paragon of the Forum *

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    Yeah, after watching the Unreal 4 Demos and that Final Fantasy engine Demo, it doesn't look like Next gen will be that giant a Leap over what we have now. I thought we'd be playing Spirits within looking games now but.......nope.

    And yeah nobody takes risks anymore, I'm going to get a PS3 soon, collecting and playing games on that should last me through the next Gen then when I'm like...40 we'll see if games have taken a decent enough leap.
     
  3. derekb

    derekb Well Known Member

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    I think the next gen will be a good leap it's just gonna take time for the games to mature on the hardware, look at first gen vs near EOL games across the systems, as developers get more familiar with the tools and really optimizing their stuff for the hardware things will only get better. I do kind of agree on the graphics hardware, and RAM too. We'll see
     
  4. kuji

    kuji Spirited Member

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    I say the next gen console is going to run about $399 like they did 7 years ago. Most likely we will see two bundles and backwards compatibility with Xbox live arcade and retail games, I also think MS will stick with the controllers they have now. They've been called the best video game controller sever built. We will begin seeing price drops from retailers maybe for the black Friday and Christmas sales, and maybe permanent price cuts mid-late 2013. Hopefully the graphics will be more improved along with speed, dev kits can withstand more pressure than retails. What happens is they have to cut back on some of that so that the reails can run it.
     
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  5. derekb

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    ^ yeah, people start complaining about pricing then forget what the previous gen launched at
     
  6. Eviltaco64

    Eviltaco64 or your money back

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    They should focus on RAM more than anything else. Storage has gotten cheaper and cheaper over the years and it always turns out to be one of the main bottlenecks in video game hardware design. I think that the hardware behind the PS3 and 360 would have been capable of much more if not for their small amount of memory, and even now only a small handful have really tapped out the full potential of either system by using sophisticated dev environments. IMO either system would probably still turn some heads if someone hardcoded a game in assembly for either architecture.

    It's kind of ironic, but Microsoft had the best approach for memory this generation even though it's processor was derived from the PS3's in the first place. All the while, the PS3 is more powerful but it's lack of RAM is the main reason why half of my games don't work with music playback. -_-
     
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  7. Shadowlayer

    Shadowlayer KEEPIN' I.T. REAL!!

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    I already say its the A2 PPC, its RISC cores

    AMD could make a super-Trinity with a 7850 GPU (which is not half bad) and the 4 Piledriver cores.

    It would kickass and cost just $199.

    Remember when all consoles were around that? yeah, me neither

    The Dreamcast was $199, so was the Gamecube

    PS2 and Xbox launched at $299 and dropped to less than half in 2 years

    This gen has been the most expensive for both companies and gamers, period.
     
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  8. Bad_Ad84

    Bad_Ad84 The Tick

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    Launching at $199 10+ years ago doesn't include inflation btw, so you cant do a direct comparison like that.

    For example:

    dreamcast at £199 in 1998 is £284 today.
    Xbox at £299 in 2001 is £394 today
    Xbox 360 at £279.99 in 2005 is £334 today


    So xbox 360 was actually cheaper than the original xbox by quite abit. This gen wont be much more once you include inflation.
     
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  9. la-li-lu-le-lo

    la-li-lu-le-lo ラリルレロ

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    Yes, but the consensus seems to be otherwise, although I'm still skeptical myself.
     
  10. Eviltaco64

    Eviltaco64 or your money back

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    Ha, regional differences are interesting to me. Where I live, the original Xbox was down to $250.00 in a lot of areas after just a few months on the market. PS2 always sold out everywhere but it took awhile for Xbox to really start selling. Around 2003/2004, though, it was a totally different story. Gamecube hardware, accessories, and games were always plentiful and abundant, but in most instances, they've ironically become the most valuable out of the three. :p

    In comparison, the 2005 Xbox 360 launch came in at $399.00/$499.00 for the Core and Premium systems, respectively, and both were sold out everywhere well into the summer of 2006. It's funny to think that back then, people would spend up to $1200 on eBay for a faulty Xenon 360 just to play some Call of Duty 2. :p
     
  11. Shadowlayer

    Shadowlayer KEEPIN' I.T. REAL!!

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    Actually I can, because the cost of electronics have plummeted like never before.

    10 years ago laptops were still going for $2000 and only cheap ones were near $1000

    Now you can get a highend model for a little less than $1000, and a decent one for almost $600, while the cheap ones are $400 or less

    Same with phones, LCD TVs, tablets, car navigation, etc...

    Consoles on the other hand got more expensive.
     
  12. Jacob.

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    I also wouldn't put it past MS to sell the next edition at a loss at launch and make up for it with DLC and games to increase system adoption.
     
  13. Bad_Ad84

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    All your post did was confirm you cant make direct comparisons from previous older electronics to current ones - with or without the inflation issue. Its obviously more complex, by your own admission.

    By your reasoning, PS3 wasnt sold at a loss for years because electronics are cheaper. Which isnt what happened, so clearly there is something wrong with your logic.
     
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  14. Does_anyone

    Does_anyone Gutsy Member

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    I laugh at everyones posts. But I got paid too much to even talk about Durango :)
     
  15. CodeAsm

    CodeAsm ohci_write: Bad offset 30

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    ;) Tell me more DaE XD
     
  16. InsaneNutter

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    But not enough to stop you selling one? ;) presuming it was even anything to do with the next Xbox you sold!
     
  17. Serantes

    Serantes Peppy Member

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    i am pretty sure i got pay much more than you and i can say durango name sounds pretty gay !! JA !
     
  18. sheath

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    They should call it the Xbox Canyonero.
     
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