Durango hardware

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  1. Shadowlayer

    Shadowlayer KEEPIN' I.T. REAL!!

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    There's something I don't get: these days on PCs its nearly useless to spend too much on a CPU, in fact many argue that a fast and cheap i3 is more than enough and users should focus on getting a beefy GPU instead

    Yet if you look at both Durango and PS4 rumors all talk about big CPU and mid or even lowend GPUs

    Whats the point? what are they trying to do here? there are rumors of a 16 core CPU for the Durango, which if its a powerPC can only be the supercomputer-class PowerPC A2

    Why not concentrate on the GPU instead?
     
  2. bob

    bob Robust Member

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    Personally My guess is the more cores, the more numbers they can crunch, which equals the ability to have higher poly objects and more detail
     
  3. Cyantist

    Cyantist Site Supporter 2012,2013,2014,2015

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    MOAR CORES!!!!! sells hardware these days. Doesn't matter how many cores there is if the architecture is crap.
     
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    Tricky Robust Member

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    It's got 64 bits! So much better than the competition!
     
  5. mooseblaster

    mooseblaster Bleep. Site Supporter 2012, 2014

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    I guess it's because they want to force developers into building efficient games that aren't wasting resources, and allowing the quality of graphics to improve steadily over the course of the consoles' lifespan so limiting the first generation of development systems to lower resources.

    Also, gives the consoles an easy time so they don't all explode within 3 months (eh, Microsoft?) Wouldn't put it past them. :p
     
  6. GodofHardcore

    GodofHardcore Paragon of the Forum *

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    I take all rumors with a Grain of salt. That and I am heavily considering just sitting next gen out unless Street Fighter V comes out or something.
     
  7. graciano1337

    graciano1337 Milk Bar

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    There were several decent new IPs this gen. But I feel like next gen will just be riddled with even more sequels and reboots than we have right now.
     
  8. guster11

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    Just you wait till piledriver comes with 12 cores!!!!!1

    But they do not need as powerful CPU's as they do GPU's. The cores will not be able to perform as well as a chip for dedicated graphics, so if this rumor is true they are really going to need to balance the two.
     
  9. kuji

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    I think that picture of the Durango is fake. I don't remeber the Xbox 360 XDK being in a PC tower only the original XDK. Anyone could have faked the VS debugging pic. There has to be more concrete evidence than some snapshots of an IBM looking desktop and the word NuiView (Which I currently have on my dev kit!).
     
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  10. Borman

    Borman Digital Games Curator

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    Youre right, it wasnt in a PC case. It was in a Powermac G5 case.
     
  11. kuji

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    Yea you got me there with the XENON kit's.:boxing:
     
  12. shuma

    shuma Robust Member

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    DaEs durango pics were real... ive seen a durango personally myself... also they plan to use some dual xeon stuff and a lower end GPU from how it seems right now... also durango is x64 and orbin (ps4) is x86.
     
  13. kuji

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    I know they are doing something with ATI with dual graphics but not like crossfire. Think of it more like a workstation design but backwards.
     
  14. Shadowlayer

    Shadowlayer KEEPIN' I.T. REAL!!

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    Crazy rumors aside if its going to have a weak GPU MS should stick an APU and be done with it

    I was testing Trinity the other day, not bad at all for just $130

    I would rather have a cheap console built around that for 3-4 years than another RROD-box for 8 years
     
  15. kuji

    kuji Spirited Member

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    I think an Nvidia GPU whoud have been better like the original xbox. I guess the IBM processors were alright but they could have been faster because now we have lags when doing certain things on the dash with all the new updates.
     
  16. CodeAsm

    CodeAsm ohci_write: Bad offset 30

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    wait they upgraded Alpha1 xbox with newer videocard and stuff to Alpha2 ? so The Durango is maybe 1 and they can upgrade like a regular pc ? No way thats posible :D well, they can make as many cores they want, its just like ps3, are programmers able to program good looking and good playing games ?
     
  17. itchy

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    It's 16 core on the alpha kit, i think.

    DaE can confirm this.
     
  18. shuma

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    its 16 core with a mediocre gpu...
     
  19. la-li-lu-le-lo

    la-li-lu-le-lo ラリルレロ

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    16-core Xeon-based processor? Exactly how are they going to make that affordable? Most gamers aren't willing to shell out the dough just for a nice gaming PC, let alone a fucking workstation.
     
  20. shuma

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    heh when they buy in bulk its way cheaper?
     
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