Earthbound 3 for N64/DD64

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  1. coreycorey2000

    coreycorey2000 Spirited Member

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    I sure can post pictures. The port on the NU64 Flash Gang Writer is the same as the SCSI port on a Dreamcast Dev. The other port would be an adaptec 2940U SCSI card.

    I need one end that will connect to the port labelled SCSI-B (It's not what I'm connecting it to, but it's the same connection)
    http://assembler.roarvgm.com/Dreamcast_Developer_Unit/Dreamcast_Development _Unit_2/dreamcast_development_unit_2.html
    I'm fairly certain it needs to be HD50 male

    EDIT this one has disappeared. I'll look for a new one.
    The other end has to connect to this (this is the same as my scsi card)
    http://cgi.ebay.com/Adaptec-AHA-2940U2W-PCI-SCSI-Adapter-2940-2940U_W0QQite mZ8764743108QQcategoryZ39969QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
    I think it would be HD68 Male.

    Thats what I posted on Starmen. If you could confirm this for me it would be great!
    Thanks
     
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  2. rbudrick

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    Ok, just want to be clear...the adaptec 2940 card had a LOT of variations to it. So, if you are positive the aha-2940u2w like in that auction is the correct connector, then that it is known as a 68-pin High-Density Ultra2 SCSI. By the way, this model usually came in a kit with the following contents:

    Card; EZ-SCSI 4.0; software drivers; User documentation and installation guide, & four internal cables: one 68-pin, one 50-pin, one 68-pin LVD, & one 50-pin internal to 50-pin HD external converter

    Now, the other connector pic doesn't show up, as you mentioned. What is it again? Or did you have another pic of it? You mentioned it is HD 50 male. The connector is male, or the cable has to be male?

    EDIT: I assume this is the pic you meant to post?

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    EDIT: OK, I did some diggin around. That 50 pin connector on that DC dev pic is actually a Centronics 50 pin connector. So, if you are sure about the connector on that card, here's some parts that would do it:

    NumSKU Mfg. Part PCC Product Name Price
    196912 S432-003 External Double Shielded SCSI Cable (HD68M-Cent50M), 3ft, S432-003 $33.95
    196913 S432-006 External Double Shielded SCSI Cable (HD68M-Cent50M), 6ft, S432-006 $29.95

    The 3 and 6 foot models are listed. The manufacturer's number and PCConnection.com's part numbers are there (I work at PC Connection). You can search around for a better price, if you'd like, but I'd surely give you a very good discount if you wanted to buy it from me, as there's some reasonably good margin I can play with on these cables. No pressure...please do buy it with whom you would feel most comfortable. Let me know if you need more info!

    By the way, I am not certain whether or not you will also need a SCSI terminator.

    -Rob
     
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  3. Mr.saturn

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    So has anything new been learned? Mother 3 is out for the gba now, and it would be great to be able and compare it with mother 64.
     
  4. coreycorey2000

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    I wish I could say I've accomplished something. But I'm still far far away. I have a scsi cable coming that was mailed yesterday. Once I get that I can flash the flash cart with IPL4rom. Well after I acquire the program to do it. I was given the software but I had a friend download it.... then he reformatted his computer. I was on dial up so it wasn't possible for me to download it at that time.

    If anyone has the Partner 64 floppies and could send me the contents/ or better yet send me a copy of the floppies/ sell me the original floppies it would be great. If not I will contact the person I downloaded them from. Hopefully he has time to send them again.

    But from what I hear these two games won't be very similar at all.
     
  5. babu

    babu Mamihlapinatapai

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    nice to hear something happening :)
     
  6. Barc0de

    Barc0de Mythical Member from Time Immemorial

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    run IPL4ROM in Project64, and see what happens ;) rename to .bin first

    EDIT: Not entirely related to Earthbound/Mother 3, but fun nevertheless

    I would also keep my reservations regarding these 4 DD disks, as further to the known format change, from 64DD to standard deck cartridge, I doubt that they would keep any test/debug versions on DD disks, and not on some computer's hard drive.

    That said, I hope I'm wrong :)
     
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  7. coreycorey2000

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    It still isn't the right cable :(

    I recieved a HD50 to HD50 scsi cable. It will connect to my Adaptec2940 SCSI card. However it will not connect to the NU64 Flash Gang Writer. The Flash Writer looks to maybe be a Centronics 50pin. The connector on the Flash Writer is the exact same size as an HD50 connector. But the pin layout is different.

    Is a centronics 50 pin the same size (width and height) as a HD50 pin?

    Or would it possibly be the mini centronics?

    I'd really like to solve this.

    Good news the HD50 to HD50 will work for my dreamcast dev kit :) So that gives me something to play around with for a while.
     
  8. babu

    babu Mamihlapinatapai

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    your sure it's not some specially made connector made just for the n64 kit?
     
  9. coreycorey2000

    coreycorey2000 Spirited Member

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    I'm starting to wonder if it may be a special connector. Sometimes Devkits do have them... Hopefully it's standard. But I have no clue
     
  10. kammedo

    kammedo and the lost N64 Hardware Docs

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    http://shiggsy.gbadev.org/gfx/nu64/n64gw2.jpg

    You mean those two arent standard scsi connectors?

    *Summons Assembler*

    Could a similar do the job?
    http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=8805054360&ssPageName=MERCOSI_VI_ROSI_PR4_PCN_BIX
     
  11. Mark30001

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    Hey coreycorey2000. Do you know if it is possible for you to take pics of the connectors and post them? I'm thinking if the connections are not round-ish then they are centronics.

    I sure would like to finally be able to see what are in those disks!
     
  12. kammedo

    kammedo and the lost N64 Hardware Docs

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    Those are the connectors he's talking about methinks
    http://shiggsy.gbadev.org/gfx/nu64/n64gw2.jpg
     
  13. Thiago_Simoes

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    I'm just here to say I really hope everything ends well. Best of luck, coreycorey. :)
     
  14. coreycorey2000

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    Yeah those are the connectors I'm talking about. I tried taking a picture with my digicam but they all came out blurry. I'm not much of a photgrapher I guess. I tried from different angles and with different lightning. But my pictures were less clear than the picture posted on Shiggsy's site.
     
  15. Mark30001

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    If the connection size is similar to the HD50 pin connector on the end of the Adaptec 2940, then it looks like you would need a SCSI HD50 to Mini Centronics (Mini CX-50) cable then. I've looked up info and this is all I could find:

    http://www.cablemakers.com/connector.html

     
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  16. Mr.saturn

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    Mother 3 may be seeing an english release in europe, atleast that's what official nintendo magazine says. Here's a scan...

    http://forum.starmen.net/?t=getfile&id=15580

    The game has much in common with the n64 version, would be nice to able and compare the two.
     
  17. coreycorey2000

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    That looks like it! I was wondering if they made a mini centronics. Because it is the same size as an HD50 looks just like the picture. But a regular centronics connector is way too big. Thank you so much man. Now I just need to track one down!
     
  18. rbudrick

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    Corey, are you saying the 3 and 6ft cables I mentioned are the wrong type? I got a pretty good look at those connectors and asked one of my tech experts to confirm.

    Just wanted to be sure, as I was pretty positive they are they right ones based on the info you gave earlier. These cables are pretty rare nowadays.

    -Rob
     
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  19. coreycorey2000

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    I can try to count the pins. But the connector is the exact same size as an HD50. I tried connecting the HD50 and compared them while doing so haha. The cables you mentioned are they mini centronics? Or are they regular centronics? Regular is definitely way too large. But you may be right, they might be 68 pins. I assumed they were 50 because they are the same size as an HD50.
     
  20. Mark30001

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    If you had an Adaptec Wide Card then you'll just need a 50 pin (HD50) to 68 pin (HD68) cable. On the back of the DC Dev box there should be HD-50 SCSI ports.
     
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