File sharing now illegal in UK

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  1. ASSEMbler

    ASSEMbler Administrator Staff Member

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    GaijinPunch Lemon Party Organizer and Promoter

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    I wonder if P2P numbers will change like they did in Japan (read: fuck all) when they recently made downloading illegal.
     
  3. Pikmin

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    this is the dumbest thing i've heard since God placed the tree of knowledge of good and evil and forbade Adam and Eve to eat of it
    :)
     
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    Bramsworth Well Known Member

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    Somehow I doubt this is going to prevent much. People always find a way, always :)
     
  5. sayin999

    sayin999 Officer at Arms

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    It will do a slight dent, but not much. And believe me they don't want spend the time checking each one there is too many. I know in the U.S. it be a huge pain in the ass to do this and cost waaay too much money and resources.

    I mean now they are releasing people that did petty stuff just to save money. I think the movie companies have to figure out a way to get people to want go to the theater, music well even if you took away piracy it somehow needs to reinvent itself(less auto tuner please).

    Sadly I got feeling this will effect getting any new episodes of top gear.
     
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    Take it like this..
    If you bought a movie and watched it alone, you not pirating..
    If you bought a movie and watched it with friends, you are stealing.
    If you bought a movie and gave it to a friend, and so on, you are stealing.
    If you bought a movie and uploaded it, you are stealing. ( Can be put both ways )
    If you downloaded a movie, it is still stealing, but its a crime..

    Why does it just suddenly turn into a crime because its over the internet?

    Somewhat ontopic:
    I do hope it doesn't spread to Australia anytime soon, leave that till I move.
     
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  7. Unorthodox

    Unorthodox Barc0de's Pimp

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    When sites start to get blocked, I'll start to think about moving country :p.
     
  8. Tatsujin

    Tatsujin Officer at Arms

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    did they? DAMN. i'm still doing it a lot. problem?
     
  9. graphique

    graphique Enthusiastic Member

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    Scariest part (if I lived in the UK):
    You can now get a site blocked from all British ISPs for merely being "likely" to have a copyright violation in the future, in the opinion of some computer-illiterate judge (who presumably wears one of those funny wigs). Or "likely to be used in connection with" copyright violation, which could mean just about anything.

    The full text of the bill is here:
    http://www.publications.parliament.uk/pa/cm200910/cmbills/089/10089.i-iii.html
     
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    subbie Guardian of the Forum

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    Does anybody know the scope of this law? Like how does it define file sharing. Like what about retail games that use P2P services to distribute updates for the game (like Metal Gear Online for PS3).
     
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    graphique Enthusiastic Member

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    It doesn't. From what I can tell, Her Majesty's Britannic Government just has power over all "communications providers" and providers of "electronic communications services", for various purposes which now include preventing copyright violations. So there's no way to sneak around the law by inventing a new way to get files that isn't technically "file sharing".

    See this part of the Communications Act 2003, which the file sharing bill modifies.
    http://www.opsi.gov.uk/acts/acts2003/ukpga_20030021_en_13#pt2-ch1-pb19

    As for the example of online updates for games, that wouldn't be illegal in any case because it's given out with permission of the copyright holder.
     
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    sayin999 Officer at Arms

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    I agree with you totally, and a lot of people are not sharing illegal stuff. All this crap started cause Lars Ulrich had to make a bit noise about it.

    Which in turn caused they opposite effect, people just did it more in protest. The industry just needs to wake up and figure out what will make people want buy their product/movie/game etc again.

    I swear they have yet to blame the ipod for killing the music industry. It was the device that gave people the easy access to listen to 100s of mp3s on the go. I swear I will laugh my ass off the day they make it illegal to use dvr or any type of recording devices.
     
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    Do you use Winny? The only people that have ever gotten busted for weird shit are people that make lots of copyrighted material available, especially before it's out in Japan. Three famous cases I remember

    1) Upload Bandai manga a day before it was released in Jump weekly
    2) Subtitling in Japanese the movie Wanted and uploading it to Winny
    3) Someone that posted pirated shit on an off-shore server and posted links (IE, made pirated music available for download via a webpage)

    Obviously the gates could come crashing down at any moment but it's probably one of those things where if you're not stupid they won't care. I mean technically "lude" contents are totally illegal but I'm sure you have all sorts of porn on your HD.
     
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    Even if it's still forbidden, people will continue doing it... Not like anybody cares that much.
     
  15. alphagamer

    alphagamer What is this? *BRRZZ*.. Ouch!

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    If something is forbidden, it is interesting, ask dem kids!
     
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    File sharing is still entirely legal in the UK and will be evermore - the topic of this post, and TorrentFreak's reaction to it, is way over dramatic.

    What is illegal is the same thing that was illegal before - copyright infringement. What's changed is what can be done to stop it (ie: blocking sites that will not comply with copyright law).

    The reason why this isn't a clear-cut issue is the methodology they feel they can apply to this. They think 'hey, we can catch someone with an IP address', and 'hey, we can block sites without consent'. The problem is that this bill was rushed through in the closing stages of parliament without proper discussion because they thought it's a open-shut case.

    Well, yeah - the internet is full of legal stuff people are sharing. And guess what? This law doesn't apply to them.
     
  17. Tatsujin

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    no winny (never heard of that anyway), only simple bit torrenting.

    usually old stuff and sometimes fresh movies (oversea stuff only). and TV shows like LOST etc.

    that's is.
     
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    1984 is approaching
     
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    Approaching? It is near completion!
     
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    All that is lacking is cameras inside the home and universal id.
     
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