Fixing an xbox v1.0

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  1. Kaicer

    Kaicer Site Supporter 2014

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    THe xbox hdd dies, but when I take it apart I found that a capacitor leaked. Is the C7G10 it was very blur but it read something as 2.5v 1F. I'm not great in this thing but I believe is 1 Farad and not microfarad the one with uf. Please take me out of my doubts and also I'll try to revive it with a mod chip or make an eprom read cable cause the hdd is also dead, anyway I want to install a modchip. But first the cap fix.
     
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  2. fasman

    fasman Enthusiastic Member

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    The 1f cap is used to store the date and time the xbox will run perfectly fine without it, as for the hdd if the system doesnt have a modchip or its tsop flashed , buy a cheap lpc modchip like a "alladin xt" and boot hexen disc to format and partition a new hdd.
     
  3. Kaicer

    Kaicer Site Supporter 2014

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    wow for real is just that simple just install the chip and run the disc? I believe I have to copy the disc from an iso. So the cap is not necessary for the xbox to work I see a lot of people with that cap leaking maybe is not a good quality. Turfster is selling me a duox2 gs do that works or I should go with the alladin xt one?
     
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    Depends, usually chips ship with a cromwell (linux bios) so you need to use a tool to actually flash a real bios. (I THINK) Hexigon or ape could give you better help.
     
  5. Kaicer

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    good because I'm really noob in this xbox things.
     
  6. APE

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    IIRC the DuoX2 GS ships with FlashBIOS allowing you to rewrite whatever you want but I may be wrong. The Aladdin XT ships with an EvoX BIOS which works just fine as it is (I've got a bunch sitting here and they're golden to just drop in).

    Slayer'sX will allow you to format the new HDD and no you don't need that cap strictly speaking but I'd remove it from the board and clean up any leak it made. So long as the XBox is plugged into the wall the RTC will get power.
     
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    The aladdins do not come flashed with LBA48 support, you need to reflash them if you want large hard drives.
     
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  8. APE

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    IIRC the cut off for that was ~120gb. I should probably take the time to reflash what I've got.
     
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    It depepends on the manufacturer Ive seen alladins with everything from flash bios, xecuter2 bios, evox M7 , evox M8+ f takes all, f and g partitions, I allways reflash them to know what I am using.

    It only takes a few seconds to do, but I have to admit some of the clones especially the real cheap XTs dont work well with M8+ so I dont recomend them for systems running alladin xt on a 1.6b.

    Allso bare in mind that duo 2 gs uses 512k bioses
     
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    I don't deem <120gb to be large.

    I wouldn't bother flashing them, users can do it via hexen disc easily enough.

    Fasman:
    I sold ape the chips he has, so I know they don't have lba48 :)
     
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  11. Kaicer

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    The only ide hard drive I got is an 80gb, so you recommend I go with the alladin xt. If that it who got them in the US? is better for me. Also I've been doing some reading and I saw something called coinops 5 and that looked great but take a lot of space. What is the max GB an xbox support?.
     
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    Okay, didnt follow the full conversation as I was posting from my phone.

    But just wanted to point out that Aladdins come with just about anything under the sun preflashed to them :p

    How good are you with soldering?

    If your running a 1.0 xbox then most likely the system will have the LPC pins filled if your not too comfortable desoldering the lpc pins and soldering in a header, I would highly recommend going for a Aladdin, the quick solder pads are a bit more newcomer friendly but still need a bit of soldering experience hence why I normally recommend them, also if you get one from bad_ad you know that it will have a compatible xbox hacked bios allready installed to it.

    If your good with soldering:

    Get the Duo 2 GS it has 2x512k bios has its advantages as you can run a debug bios on it, just be aware that most of these dont come with a xbox hacked bios installed but instead come with "flash-bios" that you need to reflash with your own bios to get the chip to do what you want.
    But unless your into coding there really isnt a point to having a debug bios compatible bios.

    If your using a 80gig HDD dont worry about the LBA settings for now, coin ops is about 55gigs odd so it will work perfectly for that.

    Xbox can do hard drives up to 1.5-2TB in size but anything over 320gigs require special partitioning els the partition corrupts over time,
    The biggest common size ide hard drive you can buy is about 750 gig anything over that are sata and you will need a sata to ide adapter.

    Normally I would recommend a 250gig hdd as that will work perfectly with a basic LBA48 patched bios(enabling hard drives over 120gig), it gets more complicated if go over 320gig.
     
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  13. Kaicer

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    Well I'm not into the coding thing I'm just want to install the drive and make it work, then I might check the coinops. I can solder fine so the filled holes are no problem. I already have to desolder the cap so a few holes is no problem. For now the only thing I need is a chip that help me install a new hdd (the 80gb one) and dashboard.
     
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    Then go for the Aladdin simply due to easy of use :), as there wont be any real advantage of going with the Duo 2 gs :) ,why complicate things, I dont know what version bad-ad sells, but Alladdin XT normally has a header option aswell.

    So what you need to do:

    1. Install the chip
    2. Check if system boots with the chip and to a hacked bios
    3. Download and burn hexen disc (google HeXEn - Heimdall's Xbox Engineering disc.)
    4. Swap the Old HDD with the new one, set the jumper to cable select.
    5. Boot hexen

    In hexen:

    Select:
    1. TSOP Flashed / Chipped Xbox Tools
    2. Chipped / Flashed Xbox Disk Upgrades
    3. New Disk, NTSC Xbox Passcode=AYBX or New Disk, PAL Xbox Passcode=AYBX

    Follow the promps...
     
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    These days I don't either except in the case of IDE drives where I can easily find a stack of 80gb drives that are still good but rarely do I come across a 320gb IDE drive or even a 500gb. For SATA 120gb is a rarity; plenty of 160gb SATA drives though.
     
  16. MaxWar

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    I usually softmod Xbox and use 120 gb hard drive. If you are patient you can get working 120gb for about 20$ shipped on ebay ( at least in Canada ) . If all you want to do is cram the thing with emulators and roms you should be find with 80gb.
     
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  17. APE

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    A USB drive would be plenty of space to load ROMs and emulators off of really. USB1.1 isn't exactly speedy but hell if it saves you precious HDD space by using a 64gb USB stick why not?
     
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    As far as i'm aware the original xbox can only address up to 4gb via USB. I'm no expert though.
     
  19. APE

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    IIRC that is a restriction of an individual file size but I too could very well be wrong. Would be the same as FAT32.
     
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    Unlike Firewire, USB doesn't have involve memory mappings, AFAIK. This probably means that this 4GB limitation is probably a filesystem or software limitation.
     
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