FM towns screen adaptator 15khz to 31???

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  1. galine

    galine Active Member

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    I would like to know if there is an adapter for transform the 15khz in to 31 khz if yes wer can I fond one and if no exists t it a list of scree compatible? In the kind machintosh, pc multisyc Amiga Atari thank you in advance Galine.
     
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    Some pictures would help, or info on the signal.
    rgb? vga?
     
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    the signal is analogic RVB a 15khz and 31khz the FM is opperationel in 31khz mode on a VGA screen but som games and boot is in 15 khz

    http://www.hardwarebook.info/FM_Towns_Video

    the FM is connect with a X68000:VGA dadaptator but it's not for modify the signial
     
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    Do you have a 480p TV? If so, you could get a RGB -> component transcoder to use the FM Towns on your 480i (15 kHz)/480p (31 kHz) TV.

    Other than that you'd have to get a scan doubler/upscanner like the XRGB-3.
     
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    Atari screen for 1040 ST is compatible? if yes I run to bye one ^^ heuuuu it's noël -_-


    joyeux noël a vous (yes i'm french What explains my English more than pitiful)
     
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    It's the standard 15 pin Japanese RGB connector. The connector is the same as old PC joysticks. This is the same problem people have with the X68000.



    Grab a Marty, it displays fine on TV screens, using either composite or s-video.
     
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    If it's RGB, can't you just run it through a Jrok? It converts 15khz to ntsc...
     
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    Sure but then you can't view 31kHz progressive video.
     
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    So I'm assuming this stems from having an FM-Towns or X68000 w/ no multi-synch monitor? Am I mistaken in thinking that most games on either system are (stupidly enough) 15khz interlaced, despite the fact the sprites are low res?

    I'm not familiar w/ CGA, but other than looking bad, I would assume that device would work (although somewhat pricey). For another 50 Euro or so, you could probably get an XRGB-3, no?
     
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    yes it 's cool but playasia don't have xrgb-3 (impressionant OO) where can I found one -_- ??
     
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    The CGA colors aren't a limitation of the display; they are a limitation of the CGA graphics board.
     
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    thanks for all I can buy it cool I will make a big interface with switch and and Convertiseurs video miscellaneous for make mine XRGB-3 like ^^ I like bricollage ^^ thanks for you contribution
     
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    You know... I forgot something. These games will look like shit through an XRGB, won't they? For the most part, games on the system are interlaced...something the XRGB is fabulous for not handling well at all. From what little I know, the XRGB2 at least needs a progressive 15khz signal to upscale properly, and FMT/X68000 games are by and large, interlaced.
     
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    That's right I have just read articles dealing with X68K talking about the 15khz output. The best solution is to have FM or X68K monitor but the weight is a real inconvenient cause it's increasing the shipping cost -_-.
    I need to find a temporary solution as my list of non working game increases -_-!
    Thinking it's going to be even more difficult for PC 88/98 !!! Oo
    Why those cool computer haven't been more imported in france T_T.
     
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    for whait I will make a vga=>atari st monitor
    switch because atari monitor work in 15khz ^^
     
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    An lcd tv with rgb scart input will handle 15khz.
    Something like this maybe:
    http://www.stocktogo.co.uk/jvc-lt15b60sj-15-lcd-tv-p-316.html

    Or if you want 15 & 31khz then get one with vga input too:
    http://www.ebuyer.com/product/126915

    Although I don't know for sure that this one has scart rgb inputs ( scart is rgb or composite or svideo ).

    I'm sure google or a trip round your local mall should turn up something.
     
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    I have continued my shearsh and I learnt that somes profesional monitor works in 15/31 khz like fm and X68K ^^ (Microvitec, Hantarex, Barco, LCD/Plasma...) a very interesting links : http://www.ecran-lcd.com/fr/lcd_chassis.htm
     
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    It will look absolutely awful, too.

    If you want it to look close to the original, you need to get something that handles all three frequencies. There are some arcade monitors that do this (I have one that's been thrown into casing, and it fucking rocks). You can buy these in the US AFAIK, but will have to do the casing mod most likely. Your console games (up to the Xbox) will have never looked better... on anything.
     
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