FS Red Star Xbox ver 8/12/04

Eh, at least it prevents profiteering among collectors. And better for a good game to be available to all as opposed to a select few.

-hl718

 

Theres plenty of games out there to "satisfy" the general public. The only ones who would even notice this game not being released are the hardcore and the hardcore gamers know where to find this game already.

Unreleased games enhance the collecting experience. This game really isn't good enough that the public just has to have it. So its going from a game of lengend which was never released to just another released game no one really cares about. This isn't Earthbound or Star Fox 2.

 

I guess we'll just have to disagree on that one. There are plenty of hardcore gamers that don't bother with warez sites and would rather just walk up to a store and buy the thing, complete with manual and cover art.

Good games get noticed among the hardcore, even if the general populace never cares. Being released just allows that many more people to actually be able to play it, rather than simply hear about it. If it is a shit game, then it'll die a deserved death. If it is a good game then it'll be just as well known. Look at Ikaruga. It didn't "disappear" from the hardcore radar simply because it was released. It's still just as good and just as in demand, only now a whole bunch of people get to play it.

As for enhancing the collecting experience, well that's what those Acclaim branded retail copies are for. I would *love* to have me one of those, as that's something that is both unique and holds value as opposed to an unbranded DVD-R.

-hl718

 

I'd rather the dedicated team who worked on the game actually get paid and feed their families than for hardcore collectors to have an unreleased game to fawn over but, hey, maybe that's just me.

 

They have already been paid have they not. What programmer would spend 6 months without pay working on a game knowing he would only get paid should the game be released?

 

...I think what he probably means is that the guy's are now out of a job / there's a lack of long term job security in the business.

 

Developers that have a profit-sharing setup, royalties, etc. will all work for less money up-front. Especially those at smaller outfits who are doing what they love.

As I said earlier, better for the game to get released than to languish in development hell. Either way, you've still got your copy, so nothing to worry about.

-hl718

 

The sinking of the Titanic was a tragedy. No one wished that the ship would go down. However the pieces which survive have an almost mystic quality that no one can deny. From dinner plates to deck chairs to the menus. To take the menu from the Titanic and cover up the words Titanic with the name of another ship so they can be re-used just doesn't sit right with me. Its not because I have a CDR, the game has been dumped so its of little monetary value. I don't plan to burn 100 copies and sell them on eBay either. I have always felt that these unreleased games have a mystic quality which makes them greater than they would normally have been.

I don't feel every game should go unreleased or anything crazy like that. The Akklaim fall makes for a great tragedy story when describing the titles which were ready for release but never made it. Let's not fool ourselves, none of these titles are that great. They did go out of business for a reason.

Adam

 

I just want to make sure I have this straight. You and I and everyone else who are awesome and HARDCORE enough to post on these forums are an elite and important crowd that deserve unique priviledges that those dirty, scummy "mainstream" gamers (who keep this entire industry afloat) don't. And furthermore, being that we're HARDCORE and awesome and totally not mainstream, our desire to pay a couple hundred bucks to buy a black market copy of a game that costed a couple million to make holds higher priority than that game's creators seeing the fruits of their two-year labor being enjoyed by fans. Am I missing anything?

 

I agree with all of the above statements

 

Where's that more complete copy of Hero Quest you had? (I'm just joking)

I agree. I think it's great that the game is (hopefully) seeing a release. While not a masterpiece, Red Star is not a bad game by any stretch of the imagination. This gives me a chance to own a legal copy, instead of using my "backup" that resides on my hard drive.

 

The fact that one is "hardcore" doesn't mean you deserve anything. It means you appreciate what others don't and know your shit. Mainstream America will never miss this game. Most of them will never know it was released.

I bought 1000 disks for $400.00 this was one of them. So whats my cost? 40 cents. This has nothing to do with the value of a CDR. Once the game was "dumped" the CDR became just that a CDR. As I see it Red Star has 2 possible futures.

1. It stays unreleased. It becomes a member of a very select group, the complete but playable games that never made it. The old magazine ads and screen shots are featured on every Xbox fan website with distinction. Mainstream gamers at age 30 who invest the time to learn about the Xbox they loved at age 10 will download the game and brag to their friends about this game that could have been so great if it was released but never was.

2. It gets released. hmm hmm hmm. Thats about it.