Those are old, from 2002 I think, I read them in a medical magazine, and plus my uncle is an oncologist. And SFD you are right about pesticides and hormones, but there's still no evidence that GMOs are bad for you. Just becos a bunch of hippies that cant see the difference between a plutonium and iridium say its bad it doesnt mean is true (honestly, they are the same shit the corporative scientists) The only nasty problem with GMOs is that since they were created they can be patented, and if we keep using them then the original ones would face extintion, and in the future one big-ass corporation may own everything we need to live. The solution? A law that says you cant file a patent for a living thing.
If you all wanna have a cancer/food/microwave chat then please head over to the offtopic forum and do it there.
Thank you, Paulo! Anyway. From what earlier posts have been pointing out to. The tree is definitely not complete. And of course we really can't say which system influenced who, but it is safe to say that every controller from NES, till now, has a lil' bit of Nintendo in them. CDi and Nuon qualify to be put on there too.
Putting a bunch of Japanese controllers on there would just be some obscurantist nonsense. Besides, he has both Saturn controllers, which other systems had better or more advanced Japanese controllers? The NES controller is much better than the Famicom controllers. Eh...I don't know, my heart's not in it. This isn't nearly as much fun as talking about cancer. Most pesticides, hormones, pollution, radio waves, etc. are no more of a scientifically proven cancer risk than GMOs are, shadowlayer; they're really all just based on the same hippy intuitions. It's the precautionary principle. ...word is bondage...
But do Japanese controllers need an extra family tree? From where I'm sitting (might be wrong, though), the Japanese videogame industry started re-selling american gaming machines like the Atari. Nintendo had pong-clones, and then someone (was it them as well?) Distributed the 2600. There were also limited Intellivision and ColecoVision releases. Something important, though, is Arcade Gaming and its influence on home controllers. Take Space Invaders, for example, which could be moved only with buttons... like a D-Pad of sorts. Then the need to fold-up the Game and Watch comes up, and systems start coming with D-Pads. Sega's SG-1000 still had joysticks that were pretty similar to 5200 / Colecovision sticks, only without the keypad - But subsequent machines do not, they had that square thing similar to a Cross Pad. Then come the Famicom and NES controllers, which might have differences so could be listed as two different evolutionary steps, but are pretty much identical. Yeah, the guy is also missing the Japanese Saturn controller (he does have it, only mis-labeled and in a wrong order). Placing that Japanese one sort of makes the american version a step backwards in terms of evolution. Sort of like an idiot cousin of sorts in the family tree. Maybe there should also be a small section of console keyboards, separated from the rest of the tree. Edit: Maybe he should see this thread. With what we've added, that family tree could improve a lot. I'd like to see the new version with this data.
Yeah, I really can't think of anything significant that a tree of Japanese controllers would add. There were some other controllers, for instance ones for systems not widely released outside of Japan like the Super CassetteVision or PC-FX, and things you mentioned like the Famicom controller or Mark III controllers that could show more steps in the development, but don't really add much to the overall picture, I don't think. As for the obscure stuff like the CDi or Pippin controllers, I really doubt that they had much influence on subsequent controllers anyway, even if they did anticipate later designs. ...word is bondage...
It's a good start and the guy has clearly put alot of work into it...give him/her credit....damn good start. My tuppence worth is it should start with the Odyssey english controller...