GC: component or vga? Best quality pls.

Sorry, misread.
Same as the Wii though, isn't it?

I don't think going through the digital port on the NTSC is that pricey... at least in my experience. But you would get no 15khz signal. However, who cares -- there are no low-res games on the GC that I can think of, and on the off chance there are, I'm sure they're interlaced anyway. Sucks if you don't a way to view a progressive signal, but this is hardly a travesty. The Wii, on the otherhand, w/ the VC and no low res RGB for NTSC consoles, is another story.

 

Wii can output RGB or Component via its AV out on all region consoles.

The motherboards are physical identical between all regions - just software differences.

Peoples definition of pricey varies. However, I remained neutral by just stating digital is more expensive than RGB MultiAV

 

I have not done much research b/c I care very little about the Wii, but it was my understanding (from reading a few threads -- even here) that the Wii supports 15khz modes for VC games, however, only S-Video for NTSC consoles but will do RGB for PAL. I'd have to dig to confirm.

So, if somehow have a 21-pin RGB cable connected to my NTSC-J Wii, and connect that to my RGB monitor, and play an SFC game on VC, what will it output?

 

Well the consoles are physically all identical. The only difference is a setting in software (which is changeable). So if there is a limit on what VC will output, its an artificial one.

I can region change my console to NTSC-J and test (I have RGB lead for my Wii). But finding time will be difficult theses days.

 

That isn't how I understood it... I thought NTSC Wii doesn't supply any RGB form to its AV port, and PAL Wii doesn't supply any s-video form to its AV port. Nothing to do with region or software so it wouldn't even be VC specific? I suppose could be an internal change like firmware or DAC version used, instead of the motherboard.'

I suppose I'll leard something from this.

But have we actually tried a fully softmodded Wii of either origin, with the other's "exclusive" cable? There doesn't seem to be much testing.

 

I will test on a region modded unit and a jap unit. I have hundreds of Wii motherboards in a box.

Its certainly possible RGB is disabled and Svideo is output depending on the system menu or region setting.

Will do some tests when I get time.

But I am almost 100% certain the hardware is identical.


Edit:

This sort of backs me up

and another:

http://nfggames.com/forum2/index.php?topic=3578.0;imode

Basically that NTSC software is forcing svideo on a pal console. Homebrew sites also mention you can config the output mode via software. However, they fall short of the rgb -> svideo confirmation.

But as I said - I have had hundreds of these, region changed many etc and am certain the hardware is identical.

Here are some of the hardware registers:
http://wiibrew.org/wiki/Hardware/AV_Encoder

6eh is the interesting one.

Also hinting at the same - its all software controlled (which is what I originally said). I didnt realise it wasnt confirmed anywhere, it was just an observation from having many many consoles in pieces.

 

IMO what I'd like to see is a way to expose PAL modes on the NTSC system menu. As much as Europeans hate what 50hz+576i did to so many games, we aren't given a choice (whether or not it's inferior). Our consoles haven't caught up to make 50hz optional the way 60hz now is for PAL ones.

 

might not be the answer your after but I simply play my Gamecube games via the Wii and Component connection, when I DID use the original Gamecube I used Component and the picture isn't much different

I need to go back and play Resident Evil 4 again someday, never did finish that awesome game

 

I admit not having read the above posts.

I also admit I don't need to since I had my GC on my monitor since it came out.

How? well, for the 480i stuff I used a VGA-box, not the best quality, certainly not better than a CRT Tele and composite cables.
For the 480p I got a custom cable (courtesy of Dr_Slump) from Lik Sang that I hooked in the "digital" port.

Hence, by the press of a button on a KVM monitor-setup I enjoyed crisp 480p gaming on my monitor.

It should be noted that I also had/have (can't find it) a Wii VGA cable that did all the 480p flawlessly.

Component to VGA is a matter of converting RGBHV => RGB, composite to VGA is another story, you'll certainly need a VGA-box that will transcode the signal although the results are average at best. It goes w/o saying that PAL gc units only output 480i thanks to their games (with the exception of Godzilla) and that means you'll have to settle with the shitty quality of a VGA box.

The Component->VGA custom cable would help you with all your 480p enabled games though. Please note that that the GC boot menu is not available in 480p.

 

Now that swiss supports 480p on PAL games, there's never been a better time to own a gc component cable,. Widescreen works really well too.
If you dont want to spend too much money, just use Wii + comp cable

 

Indeed. If one can afford the gc component cable, a jp or switched gc system to fix japanese games is more than within one's budget to save for.