Glover N64 - Community Dump

Discussion in 'Repair, Restoration, Conservation and Preservation' started by Brandon.F, Sep 22, 2011.

  1. corrigo

    corrigo Active Member

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    Without the checksum fixed, 1964 is the only one who can start the game

    But if you want to play the game with P64, you are compelled to fix it.

    You can also use RN64CRC V2.0, it's available here :
    http://n64.icequake.net/mirror/64scener.parodius.com/tools.htm
    It's better to rename the rom name to "Glover.rom"
    Then, launch the program and enter the line comand : rn64crc -u glover.rom
    The cheksum will be fixed

    And yeah, this method is quite boring, so here's a link with the rom fixed:
    http://bayfiles.com/file/5XAN/phDEnB/Glove...9[Fixed].7z

    Enjoy
     
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  2. olivieryuyu

    olivieryuyu Robust Member

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    well Brando F needs to redump the proto to get a proper release.
     
  3. nesworld

    nesworld Gutsy Member

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    ... it's not like Brandon hasn't had time to test his rom dump, a release like this is unacceptable...

    $400 for a bad dump, hrmmm
     
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  4. SubDrag

    SubDrag Rapidly Rising Member

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    Is there anything wrong besides a bad checksum? That's hardly grounds for uproar. I've seen some other protos dumped with bad checksums or don't run on backup devices. As long as it's fixable who cares. And great release :)
     
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  5. KiddoCabbusses

    KiddoCabbusses Active Member

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    I'd propose giving him a bit more time to do the redump. The dump as it is appears interesting, anyhow.

    Has no one actually found any sign that the ROM release has any corruption?

    Anyhow, let me ask this since I'm more familiar with SNES stuff than N64: Would the game have been able to boot on hardware if it were a bad checksum?

    EDIT: I will give a bit of warning though, that if signs point to a better redump not happening I will ask for a refund on my donation.
     
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  6. SubDrag

    SubDrag Rapidly Rising Member

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    I haven't found anything wrong with it, but lots of cool beta stuff, that's for sure. Perhaps the game ran with a bad checksum on original hardware?
     
  7. angrylion

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    Statistically, bad checksum is less likely than corruption within the 1st MB of the rom, which is used to calculate a checksum.

    Only if there's some other hardware inside that cart that's somehow able to auto-correct the checksum on boot.

    This little glitch in "Y" and "N" letters, which is absent in the final version of Glover, may (or may not) be a result of corrupt dump (I verified that this glitch also happens on hardware): Glover 1 beta буквы (нет в фи&.jpg
     
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  8. olivieryuyu

    olivieryuyu Robust Member

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    A redump is a question of principle. We paid 400 USD of good money for a rom. It makes no sense to get a bad dump in return.
     
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  9. Mechi

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    Level Select found.

    Found the Level Select. Fixed rom plays very well on the PSP.
     

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  10. Brandon.F

    Brandon.F Spirited Member

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    Sorry for the late reply. I highly doubt this is a 'bad dump'. Reason for that is that I thought it was a bit buggy but as it turns out it should be like this. I have actually made some 20 dumps of the game and they all are the same. Something I have never noticed with other N64 games. So I'm pretty sure it should be like this. You will want to re-crc the rom to make it work on emulators and hardware. That's what I did.
     
  11. KiddoCabbusses

    KiddoCabbusses Active Member

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    If this is the case, then can the cartridge being able to boot without a good crc be explained?
     
  12. Brandon.F

    Brandon.F Spirited Member

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    I honestly do not know but guys, it's not much to complain about. Just fix the checksum and it should work just fine. It obviously will not dump right.
     
  13. nesworld

    nesworld Gutsy Member

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    That's not a valid $400 answer Brandon... I've never heard of N64 protos that wouldn't dump right, I've dumped 50+ (yes really) and never had this problem (most backups were done with a GameShark).

    What concerns me is that the rom won't boot on real hardware, unless you fix the crc, so my concern is that the rom is bad even after a crc fix. It's not like this was given away for free, then people shouldn't complain... but you got $400 in return for the release.

    Had you mentioned the CRC fault earlier people might've stayed away... so good call from you on keeping that part secret.
     
  14. olivieryuyu

    olivieryuyu Robust Member

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    really shocking ... 400 USD for a bad rom ... :sorrow:
     
  15. APE

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    You've dumped 50+ N64 prototypes? I assume you realize that 50 is a rather small sample size and one size does not fit all.

    And you guys do know that most emulators will ignore/bypass checksum failures with or without warning the user. The fact it needs fixing is so ridiculously minor as to not be worth mentioning let alone tell the guy he kept it a secret in some way of screwing donators over. What a crock. The game works doesn't it? The checksum being wrong could be a thousand and one things including having been written to the cartridge incorrectly in the first place.

    How about we not jump to conclusions and issue accusations that have no evidence to them?

    Given Brandon has made more than 2 dumps and they came out the same...and beyond the letters Y and N having corruption (which could very likely be emulator related or the fact that, gee, it is an unfinished beta) I think a select few are having a pissing match for no valid reason. Cough up something valid or stuff it.
     
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  16. SubDrag

    SubDrag Rapidly Rising Member

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    Which part of this makes it a "bad" ROM? It's a pretty sweet beta fully playable. I commend Brandon for posting the ROM straight from the hardware. If I had a ROM dumped from hardware that had some sort of protection, I'd prefer the raw dump, and then a simple IPS or xDelta patch to fix it along with release. If he had simply updated the CRC before release, all these posts would be opposite like "Great beta!" or "Thanks!". I imagine you wanted the ROM based on the title being old, as well as screenshots/info, not because the CRC was 1A4DD232. This is a whole lot to do about nothing. Until someone finds something that proves it's a bad dump and not a unique cart, this is ridiculous.
     
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  17. olivieryuyu

    olivieryuyu Robust Member

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    Without a valid CRC it is unlikely that any device boot on real hardware. The current rom doesn't and even with CRC fixed it has this menu issue on REAL hardware. I dumped many protos as well and ALL of them had a valid CRC.

    Now obviously we cannot do anything anymore as it is pretended that the cart had been dumped about x20 times. I have really my doubts that it was dumped properly.

    Frustration is the only word that comes to my mind ...
     
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  18. Brandon.F

    Brandon.F Spirited Member

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    I wasn't aware, I just thought you had to give it a little crc patch because of how the rom was built. I didn't know there was something genuinely wrong.
    That is just over-dramatic.

    I will continue trying to re-dump the game but somehow I believe that it just will not dump right. I will also try to find my previous Glover dumps to see if there's anything different. If I am dumping it wrong then please do let me know, I just dump it the way I dump all the other N64 games, and every single one of them have been successful without any problems.

    To the other guys, thanks for the support.
     
  19. olivieryuyu

    olivieryuyu Robust Member

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    Yes a bit over dramatic ... :concern:

    We don't want to attack you anyhow, don't get it wrong.

    We are just surprised about this impossible CRC and the possible consequences of it.

    If you dump with a GS with GSCC the rom should be fine normally

    There is nothing to add more on the topic I guess ...
     
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  20. Mystical

    Mystical Resolute Member

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    is it not possible that the cartridge rom has degraded slightly or never had the final block written or something similar when originally created?
     
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