Got a plasma TV and some questions

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  1. Delta_force

    Delta_force Spirited Member

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    so, i just got a samsung ps-50p5h plasma TV (from someone i know for ~100€) and after setting it up and quickly testing it i got some questions:

    first, is it normal that the TV (or plasmas in general) have problems with composite video and resolution changing? (it takes one or two seconds with pretty f*cked up flickering before having a proper image; tested with PS1 via composite)

    second, i fired up my PS2 via component, and in certain cases, very dark to black areas have blue and red pixels flickering around (which are really easy to spot), is that normal too, or a problem with the deinterlacing? (tested with PS2 via component and games running at NTSC, PAL and GT4 1080i)

    third, it has some pretty bad border burn in or the level before burning in completely, which seem to come from running in 4:3 mode in general, as well as viewing 16:9 stuff in 4:3 mode (i think its called letterboxing).
    i ran the build in correction pattern (a vertical running black-to-white thingy) for some time and apparently got rid of the 4:3 border burn in, but not the letterbox one.
    is there video material which could be used to get rid of the letterbox thingy or should i just wait some more time?

    and finally, it looks like it has a dead strip of pixels in the lower right corner, going down vertically from about the middle of the screen until three fingers above the lower border. am i out of luck or is there some magical trick to get them back to life? (theyre not completely dead as in black but look pink-ish, apparently the green part fails)

    i hope this stuff isnt that obvios to google, a quick search didnt bring anything up for me D:

    thanks in advance :)
     
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  2. XxHennersXx

    XxHennersXx I post here on the toilet sometimes.

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    The burn in might be stuck completely. those pixels have been worn out far more than the others. Your dead pixels? Also done. My panasonic plasma has no issues with resolution changing. And component is fine too...

    :/ tough luck mate.
     
  3. Delta_force

    Delta_force Spirited Member

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    hm, this sounds bad :/ i got rid of some of the burnt in borders though (the 4:3 ones... looks like someone watched lots of movies on this one, gah).

    i also asked around elsewhere and apparently its possible to "revive" pixels that still work (as in they show something and arent completely black, like mine) by running video which uses all pixels excessively (which looks like epilepsy to me).
    is that something that has a chance of one in a million to work or something i should consider stressing the TV with?

    (on a side note, i ran a video that does this for ~10 seconds and heard a lot of clicking from the panel. is that the panel switching the backlight on and off when displaying black or something thats broken?)

    i wish there is some hope to get this thing fully back to work, but if not then it may be
     
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    XxHennersXx I post here on the toilet sometimes.

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    I've heard of those types of videos to revive pixels...but yours sound dead to me. A dead pixel on a plasma is blank - none of the gases are igniting, unlike a LCD panel where it's white.

    You could try it but i've never seen it work myself. When I was working with home theater sales we had a Samsung plasma that had the DolbyHD logo stuck in the corner from having the same demo loop. We ran things like that on it all night - closing at 9PM to opening at 9AM. No dice.
     
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    Those dead-pixel-fix videos only work on LCDs, and only in cases where the pixel is actually physically stuck. That is, the nematics have become incorrectly twisted, and rapidly varying the voltage at that pixel or subpixel can work them free.
     
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    Borman Digital Games Curator

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    Just from your description, the panel does not sound healthy at all. Mine doesnt have an issue with resolution switches, red pixels, any of that.
     
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    XxHennersXx I post here on the toilet sometimes.

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    not entirely true - in fact plasmas have them built into the panel's menus. On a plasma it'll happen because the gasses on a plasma will fade over time - and if something (a white logo specifically) needs white pixels - it uses all 3 gasses (red/blue/green). This will cause the pixel to be darker than the surrounding ones.
     
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    You can fix burn in on a plasma by leaving it on static for some hours or playing a wipe pattern.
     
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    XxHennersXx I post here on the toilet sometimes.

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    He said he ran the built in wipe pattern and nothing.
     
  10. Delta_force

    Delta_force Spirited Member

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    okay, i used the TV a few hours yesterday and the burn-in seems to be less extreme when not viewing white stuff (it also seems to go away slowly so thats not a problem anymore), also the wipe pattern did do something (else it would be worse now)

    and again, the pixel strip is not dead as in black(!), but looks like this: http://i.imgur.com/YHIgsAp.jpg (only the green part seems to be gone there, red and blue still work)

    the resolution thing seems to be not a problem with the TV but with the way the PS1 works and outputs video...
    the thing with the dancing red and blue pixels over component seem to come from interference of some sort, ill have to check that today

    thanks for helping me so far
     
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    XxHennersXx I post here on the toilet sometimes.

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    those pixels should be white but only the red and green gasses...i don't think you can fix that :/
     
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    hm, looks like im out of luck with that...
    im considering to get rid of it, as its power consumption (480 watt) and the picture quality, which is simply bad compared to our (good) old CRT, together with the faults this thing has simply dont compare to the use we would have with it...
    guess ill need a CRT or a reeeally good plasma (which needs to be real good with handling interlacing and composite video, playing PS2 over composite looked like someone put the video in the washing machine prior to display D:), but both would be expensive as hell i guess...
     
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    XxHennersXx I post here on the toilet sometimes.

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    that model came out several years ago. I have a model from 2011 Panasonic P42S2. No issues. I paid about $500 for the 42" version.

    Only thing I haven't tried is 240P
     
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