hackers getting sued

Hawanja: the nude patches are here already for the game and if they sue them and win (IF) then bittorent would have them.

 

I don't even need to boycott Tecmo as in a way I do allready. look @ DoA Ultimate - is it a new game? Hell no, just DoA3 with xbox live support .... Their DoA series maybe be adequately fun to play but gets pwned by the likes of SoulCalibur, they only really got anywhere because of the big droopy swingers anyway ....

Granted they have the right to pursue the case because it's illegal - but I personally would rather see a change in the law to make their actions legal as they really are doing no real harm.

 

The only way to earn money for them, of their games they don't earn it

 

how dumb can one get. sueing their own legit hardcore fans. the people that value the game most by adding content in their own spare time, making the game more attractive to others. this is ridiculous as hell.

valve and xsi even give you all the software you need to to exactly that with halflife.

the dmca is so fucking wrong. in fact, the whole american way of patents, copyrights, dmca etc is simply braindead. fucking industry-controlled politics.

 

I'm sure Tecmo knows they really have no ground to stand on, but if these guys from that site have no $$ to pay a lawyer, Tecmo automatically wins. "Court... a tradition in America where two sides compete to decide which one has the better lawyer."

 

No ground to stand on?
"No person shall circumvent a technological measure that effectively controls access to a work protected under this title."
DMCA Title 1. The bit in it that people think permits reverse engineering actually says:
"Notwithstanding the provisions of subsection (a)(1)(A), a person who has lawfully obtained the right to use a copy of a computer program may circumvent a technological measure that effectively controls access to a particular portion of that program for the sole purpose of identifying and analyzing those elements of the program that are necessary to achieve interoperability of an independently created computer program with other programs, and that have not previously been readily available to the person engaging in the circumvention, to the extent any such acts of identification and analysis do not constitute infringement under this title."
So you're only allowed to reverse-engineer for interoperabilty (cross platform compatibility), plainly not relevant to the xbox stuff. This is only in here for big companies who want to use their old mac database on their nice new pcs through emulation but don't want to get sued.

More about the DMCA here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Digital_Millennium_Copyright_Act

 

So how did Nintendo lose EVERYTIME against the Game Genie. How come emulator authors are running free?

 

What about the legal right to circumvent copy protection for personal use/backup? Legal right outweighs company policy ....

 

GaijinPunch: Nintendo lost every time because the DMCA wasn't made back then ^_^
LeGit: re-read my last post and the wiki entry, it explains where and when you have a legal right to circumvent copy protection. It's got nothing to do with company policy.

 

A judge could surmise that the skins they made were independently created computer programs and therefore their circumvention was legal.

 

Yeah, that's true. Though skins aren't likely to be executables, so I guess it comes down to what you call a "program".

 

What exactly is special about the skins? If they are just picture files, then they can't do much about it - unless perhaps it is a proprietary format owned by Tecmo. That seems unlikely, though. If the skin is released with code that alters the game, then I guess that's different.

I would say it is the code that alters the game which is objectionable - not the skins. How can someone stop you from creating in effect a picture file? It is the code that allows it to work in their particular game which is objectionable, I would have thought.

Emulators have always been a grey area. The thing to remember there is that they are emulating hardware. A lot of emulators don't include BIOS images, because this is prorietary code that is copyrighted. You have to find your own BIOS image. It isn't copying the circuit per se, just mimicking it on a computer.


As for that backup law people keep misquoting, its bullshit. The law actually states that you may have ONE copy of anything stored on a fragile and potentially susceptible media. This was basically made for tape media, which could be magnetically erased. CD-ROMs and ROMs technically are impervious. OK, we all know it is possible to damage them, but they weren't meant to be included in this law. It is ESPECIALLY not applicable outside the US.

 

I still think Temco has no ground. The game wasn't "reverse engineered," it was decompiled problably with one of any number of commercially availible programs. Ninjahackers didn't write a specific program tailor made to do this.

They're not defeating any copy protection either. All they're doing is modifying exsisting code for personal use. I don't think the DCMA covers that.

If they somehow broke propriatary security measures so the game could be copied onto DVDR, then that section applies. I don't know, did they do this? I thought that was something that was done years ago.