Home consoles have one generation left??... BLASPHEMY!!!

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  1. Theguyatthekeyboard

    Theguyatthekeyboard Rising Member

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    Heres what I posted in the video's comment section:



    Thoughts?
     
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  2. camdman

    camdman Robust Member

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    If not, and if console and game manufacturers don't take some serious notes and listen then it won't be too far off.
     
  3. Errorjack

    Errorjack Gears of War Collector

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    Playing on a phone or tablet just sucks. Some people have giant sausage fingers.
     
  4. Faded

    Faded <B>Site Supporter 2014</B>

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    Not only that but tablets and phones are more equip with capacitive touch screens in this generation of technology thus meaning no tactile feedback.

    Consoles do stand a fighting chance, but developers need to step their game up when producing a new console. PC, which I consider a console, has been ahead of the game for so long and is slowly, if not moderately killing console manufacturers off because of their own ignorance. These new consoles are innovative, yes; however, people like Microsoft and even Nintendo need to step their game up and produce a console that can match its competitors if not outshine them to the point that people will want to buy these consoles over something like switching to PC gaming or going to their competitors. I'll use the Wii U as an example, the console itself looks slick and is a worthy competitor in this generation against the PS4 and Xbox One; however, there are bugs that obviously were not looked into and had to be patched roughly 5-6 months after its initial release which is ridiculous and Nintendo has been ignorant about what games they want on their console. Sure, the console is still early in its life-cycle and it will eventually get games that people want to buy much like the 3DS or even the Wii, but Nintendo needs to step its game up about tenfold right now. Most of the games I've seen for the Wii U so far in the list of games that have been released have either been half-assed ports or re-releases. There are good titles for the Wii U but it can't just be re-releases and ports of older games, there would be no variety outside of that which is something that plays a hefty factor for the common consumer. Who knows, maybe I'm wrong but it's the way I feel about it.
     
  5. Unknown-Organization

    Unknown-Organization <B>Site Supporter 2014</B>

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    The video just... er whatever

    1. He mentioned the huge power difference of console and smartphones, yet he didn't say how smartphones could catch up. As of now, the batteries lifetime of tables/smartphones is way too low to begin with ~20h, and battery technology has just stepped recently (lithium).


    2. People will always compare console computing power to possible PC performances, hence PCs will always stay ahead tables/smartphones simply because of the much bigger space (also cooling). And most gamers wont settle for less.
     
  6. Flash

    Flash Dauntless Member

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    Touch controls and serious games. Why not... only if your game is a hardcore turn-based strategy game or a puzzle.
    PC vs tablet? Ok, here we go. 4 years old PC. 6GB of VRAM, 64GB of RAM, 30Tb of disk space. And workstations we use at my work place are a bit more powerful - a few extra GPUs for CUDA stuff. Maybe phones/tables will catch up. In 2050 or so.
     
  7. wilykat

    wilykat Site Supporter 2013

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    I don't think game consoles are going away. They may be more PC-like with custom OS and a few hardware tweak to make copying illegally hard and cheating hard.

    Desktop isn't going away. My main computer is dual XEON X5650 and dual GTX 580. Show me a tablet or phone that can do real time 3D rendering of a complex image or make a poster sized 3D image in under 1 hour and I'll show you one that needs nuclear power cooling system and battery life that goes from full to zero in 3 seconds.
     
  8. Eviltaco64

    Eviltaco64 or your money back

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    The limiting factor for consoles is that they are all becoming more and more similar.

    Architecture, R&D, and design aren't as complex or important as they once were. Now it's mostly about software (games/online functionality) and marketing. The new generation is comprised mostly of encrypted pseudo-PCs that their manufacturers have sought out unique licensing agreements for.

    Everything might as well be one unified platform and network (NinSonSoft) by this point, the only thing preventing that is the extra profit from competition. Hopefully that will keep contributing to the development of worthwhile games.

    This generation doesn't interest me as much as past generations have. I miss the obscure architectures, limited chiptune, and the crazy developers that somehow pushed them sometimes even above their limits. I might eventually pick up a PS4 or a Wii U. Xbox One's DRM is off-putting (and it totally looks like a rotated NES case. seriously, take a look at it)
     
  9. HEX1GON

    HEX1GON FREEZE! Scumbag

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    I rather consoles purely for the fact of less fucking around with graphics settings to play the game reasonably.
     
  10. Johnny

    Johnny Gran Turismo Freak and Site Supporter 2013,2015

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    Predictions... Just another way to say dumb things about the future.
     
  11. Theguyatthekeyboard

    Theguyatthekeyboard Rising Member

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    Also, you don't have to update it with a newer graphics card EVERY time you get a new game :p
     
  12. GodofHardcore

    GodofHardcore Paragon of the Forum *

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    NO MORE USED GAMES....

    A prediction that was only half true.
     
  13. XxHennersXx

    XxHennersXx I post here on the toilet sometimes.

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    this is the most abstract and far fetched concept I've seen in a long time..
     
  14. wattywatts

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    The Nvidia shield looks pretty cool though. A bit pricey unfortunately.
     
  15. MYCRAFTisbest

    MYCRAFTisbest Peppy Member

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    It seems likely that this could happen. I imagine it would be somewhat similar to a PSP GO/Xperia Play. I also imagine 2 different possible ways to play the games at home.

    The first is some sort of dock, like the 3DS has, that allows for charging the console and connect it to a TV. You can then use wireless controllers not on the console to play. I think this would probably be the best way to execute this.

    The second would require the perfection of wireless HD signal (or a long cable). It would ether be like portable consoles are now (2 consoles = 2 controllers) or be somewhat like the SEGA Nomad where the other players would connect controllers to the console (of course it would be wireless though).

    I also can say why I think it might not happen too. $$$! Companies like Microsoft might do this, but SONY and Nintendo both have a console in both markets. Combining these markets will cause them to lose money. I doubt companies will do this unless to compete agents another company that took this approach.

    Only way to find out is wait 6 - 8 years.
     
  16. Theguyatthekeyboard

    Theguyatthekeyboard Rising Member

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    Yeah, but as I've mentioned above, people have varying connection speeds or no connection at all(since the PSPgo plays downloadable games only), so if companies did that, then it would put the vast majority of gamers at a disadvantage because they wouldn't be able to download games at all.
     
  17. MYCRAFTisbest

    MYCRAFTisbest Peppy Member

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    I was actually referring to how the controls slide out and the overall shape and size (I actually forgot those things were download only). I am not yet sure about future consoles, however it is obvious that Nintendo, SONY, and Microsoft are trying to pull away from hard-copy games (club nintendo offers more points for downloaded game / PSP GO / downloadable game market). This is obviously done because of money. It is cheaper to distribute data without making a case or storage medium for it. It also weakens the used game market. I do feel certain in saying that optical disc media will soon be the past of gaming especially if this portable thing does happen. They will probably use downloadable media and may offer the option to buy a card instead (like the 3DS and Vita)
     
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  18. MYCRAFTisbest

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    I was actually refering to the design of the console. I am not yet sure about future consoles, however it is obvious that Nintendo, SONY, and Microsoft are trying to pull away from hard-copy games (club nintendo offers more points for downloaded game / PSP GO / downloadable game market). This is obviously done because of money. It is cheaper to distribute data without making a case or storage medium for it. It also weakens the used game market. I do feel certain in saying that optical disc media will soon be the past of gaming especially if this portable thing does happen. They will probably use downloadable media and may offer the option to buy a card instead (like the 3DS and Vita). I am almost positive there will be physical games. The main evidence I have to back it up is the holiday season. It is the number one time for new releases and the time of the year with the greatest spike in the market. If you remove it, developers lose sales. I understand they have point cards but a lot of my relatives have the idea of buying something that I can open rather then giving cash. So there will be a decrease in sales durring the holidays (and overall due to birthdays).
     
  19. Johnny

    Johnny Gran Turismo Freak and Site Supporter 2013,2015

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    I don't see physical copies going away anytime soon.

    Everybody said MP3s, Napster, iTunes, ... would kill CD's. And we still have CD's around. Even LP is back, getting more releases.
    What about movies / TV shows? iTunes, Netflix, Hulu, Vudu, Amazon, ... And we still have DVD's and Blu-rays. And i bet that the whole 4K technology will have a new media format to show it off.
    Books? e-books are everywhere for dirty cheap, e-readers are getting very cheap, not to mention tablets can read them. Still, real books are still huge sellers.

    I don't get why a new media distribution system has to kill one that has being working for a long time. It's important to give customers choices. I think physical copies are needed. It helps marketing, it keeps the product on people's minds.

    And honestly i don't wanna live on a society where a grandmother will have to buy a "downloadable code" to give a game for a grandson's on his birthday or for christmas.
     
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  20. Shadowlayer

    Shadowlayer KEEPIN' I.T. REAL!!

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    I remember how consoles were supposed to die off because PCs were getting these "3D accelerator cards" that could do fancy graphics.

    Seriously, why are we even debating this shit video?
     
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