How long until the PlayStation Vita is hacked?

it already is

 

If the security is similar obscure than the ps3 is, it will be hard. But sine they used ARM and there is no cpu based security which can be used, i give it 6 months for first results, 2 yrs for a descent full hack. Why that long? Not everyone who could do it will shelf the money for a device out topossibel break it. It will happen once he price dropped.

 

Tabula rasa?

Look at it this way...
There isn't only a single group of hackers and why would you want to emulate the UMD drive? To implement a flash interface? Software engineers generally aren't great hardware engineers and vice versa. If one attack vector showed more promise than another why waste time on the less promising vectors?

Besides, by offering a flash interface for a PSP you require that the UMD drive be replaced which the average user can't really do without buying some tools and having to learn how to strip down a PSP sucessfully. A firmware hack? Hypothetically if you make the software package to install it polished enough you could make it nearly idiot proof. Obviously there isn't a whole lot of money to be made if you freely release something so well polished but not everyone is anti-altruistic.

 

There will be flash-cart/cards just like the DS had. Anything cartridge based has had one, well nearly every console off the top of my head. We'll have to wait and see, I would say more than 1 month unless hackers already own a system

 

Mathieulh will probably hack it within the first month seeing as you can transfer games from the PS3, he'll find the Vita PKG AES key pretty quickly.

 

Oh for the love of...

Mathieulh will NEVER hack ANYTHING VITA, not officially, not ever.At best he will taunt users and developers with 'I've done it, so it can be done' news releases left and right. * Also I constantly hear he's taught by another more gifted hacker. * Oh the power of rumor and speculation.
Why would I say this? Because the serious/real hackers on any given scene don't give a shit about credit, they hack because it's in their nature and more importantly it's for a cause.

Mathieulh has always been a figure head team based secondary developer, it's in the name people. (skills involved) Not for the faint hearted, however the one thing that holds him back, and always will till he fucking wakes up is his name -- Mathieulh.

The day he drops Mathieulh and goes underground will be his greatest day.

Until then, he'll continue like many of us would to enjoy notoriety. That's a difficult thing to drop and requires discipline.

You could argue, he's working on and has released hacks anonymously, who knows?

This brings me to my point.

Believing in a named hacker like Mathieulh requires faith/belief and no proof because there is none. You my believe in their skills or abilities but you can never prove it making every discussion redundant. Proof means Sony can trace the hack to that individual, therefore financially raping them.

A similar pattern can be found in western religion (maybe all?). Apparently God and Satan exist to a vast majority of people, however not a shred of proof is required or offered beyond individual 'gut feeling' & childhood experiences in my experience.

Make an impact?
Drop the fucking name...

 

I'm confused by your definition of hack.

You seem to imply that hacking involves some sort of public release.

You say 'serious/real hackers' don't care about credit - why would they bother to release in the first place/at all. You think they are fighting for the end user? I can't speak for everyone but the security work I do is not for the public (even if it is in their interest).

It seems you are upset knowing something is possible (but not available) more so than not knowing its possible at all.

On Topic: http://psx-scene.com/forums/content/rumor-hello-world-psvita-rumor-1764/

 

That is what was pointing out.

Why would you hack a CD-ROM, when there is an SD card slot that also acts as a storage device.

Same with the Vita.

Sony has those special cards that are custom made, hence 'sd' card based.

As far as I know, an SD card would be a lot easier to work around than a CD-ROM drive because it is not mechanical and a whole stack of microcontrollers are not needed to drive such a thing.

I think some of you took this the wrong way.
But then again, all of your opinions are interesting.

 

Unfortunately I can't make any sense of what you're saying.

It'll likely get its firmware hacked, games dumped and run off standard SD cards or maybe some sort of DS style flash cart. The SD cards themselves won't get hacked and assuming that the SD slot as a vector makes it "easier" than an optical drive is a false assumption.

 

No no, you've misunderstood ether the language or the tone of my post then. I'd suggest reading it again...

 

The psx scene link is the usale "news sites we need to report bad style", thats some PSP code running on Vita emulated, most likely singed with the known keys. Thats not an exploit, thats the way it works.

About Mathieulh, well his hacking involves i.e. to post version string copy pasted from a PS3 TOOLs Target Manager on twitter and claiming he hacked lv0. Great trolling maybe, but well ...

 

This thread has just derailed and I am so frustrated I JUST WANT TO SCREAM!

I am sitting in my roof now, on a macbook, with its fans going crazy, in the Australian summer heat to get 3 bars of signal for my iphone to get connectivity to the internet, because my ISP can not decide to not use, or use interleaving on my DSLAM, or replace the water filled copper in my street.


As for the SD card thing, you have taken my words incorrectly.
How do you know that those special sony SD cards will be the same as a standard SD card?
For all you know, the hackers may need to get a converter made for it so it will actually line up to the correct pins. Kind of like a micro SD adaptor.

Dont you think I would know that the systems kernel / firmware would need to be cracked to allow such a thing!

 

Least you don't have the flu with this heat, Melbourne City is a dirty crap hole! This heat is insane :<

Talking about the old UMD drive, funny when people were selling "Chipped" PSPs

It would have to be a flash card or a game exploit, I'm counting on a game exploit as those are way more common...

 

Ha, PlayStation Vita has been released? Seems I have been under a rock for the last month or two.

 

With ARM you can add all the cpu security they want. ARM themselves don't make anything, you license the design from them and change all you want.

What they did we can't know yet.

 

It is a Samsung build ARM Cortex A9. You can't expect this to have similar security as the PS3's CELL CPU build by a group of world largest IT companies (Toshiba, IBM etc.).

ARM of the Ax series by default has a AES processor, but thats the best you get around it atm. Thats far from the secure boot scheme of the PS3, far far away.

The design used in CELL is pretty smart and took years to develop. It was expensive that it wasn't just designed for PS3, also IBM Blade center use it and various other high end products. Seriously, you think you can expect the same level of security in the Samsung proc? I highly doubt it.

Sony is a large company, but they can't pay a complete redesign of a CPU just for something like the VITA compareable to the CELL design.

 

Nope. Nothing you've said so far has lead me to think you would already know that actually.

 

^

 

I now understand DarkAlex more I think.

And maybe more people, maybe some People here on Assembler also stopped releasing any interesting stuff, info or files. I respect those who wanted to share. Not only that, just doing your "thing" used to be fun.
I wish for a those and more to have there Enjoyment in some way restored. And some friends to share it with. (friends in: can be trusted, ive heard stories)

Hope people at Sony also have fun. I really wish they and others want to create great game's. Lets ask Sony to release a Linux on the PS Vita. Or let that awesome Hack wait a while.

 

lolk.

At least my internet is back up again...