How Rare is a Japanese Jaguar?

Two or so years ago I was passing through pakistan as a stopover for a few days and happened upon a game shop, with authentic merchandise unlike the vast majority of shops with pirate shit (but some very cool clones) in lahore's trendier dristict (not saying much) , and noticed a Japanese Jaguar, boxed, in good condition - it was likely new.
I was in school then and not a hardcore gamer - had I been then as I am now I would have picked it up. As it stands I was a casual SEGA and DC gamer , though I did have some inkling that this thing was uncommon, but after I was given a price of around $140 Canadian (approx $110 USD, 55 GBP) thought it was too expensive and ditched it after haggling got me nowhere.

My question is - is a Japanese Jaguar rare ? How much would it be worth? Did I make a mistake in not picking it up at that price?

 

There is no such thing as a Japanese Jaguar and if there is then it must have been the worst promoted console in history since I've never seen or heard of a Japanese jaguar in my 6 years of living here.

Yakumo

 

The Jag was released in Japan, I've seen a few. I quote:

From this page.

 

As NFG said, its was released, but bombed like crazy, having a big US flag on the boxes didn't help!

 

Yes, I remember AVP being packed in.

NFG - anyone - any idea on its worth?

 

:smt043 Trust Atari to cock up bigger than 3DO or even Microsoft with their XBOX. The Jaguar must have bombed like hell then as I've never seen one. I can see 3DO sysdtems and games quite easilly but never anything Jag based.

Yakumo

 

Yeah, I saw 3DO's aplenty. Also, I did see a few Jaguars in Akihabara, but I assumed they were imported versions. 30k yen for a boxed version in Trader rayer:

 

I saw on Yahoo Japan Auctions ( the best place to buy )
an Atari Jaguar

http://page7.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/jp/auction/g24464964

Sell 19500 yens .

It's a japanese model

I think Japanese models are very rare.
If you have one, I think it's better you may keep it.

 

Yes, there is. I know two Americans that own one. You can tell because, well, it came with AvP and the text on the box and manuals is in Japanese for the most part.

The last estimates pin the distribution at between 2,000 and 5,000 units. Not REALLY hard to find, but not easy either.

 

Yeah remember that the 3do did not quite fail as much as people think it did in japan,they sold well over a million units there and had alot of success before the Psx and Saturn really took off,even then 3do games competed in the charts for a short time after.

 

Yeah, but backed by Matsushita, no? Kinda makes it Japanese too.

 

Yes, I know this now by the other posts. Still hard to find one though.

Yakumo

 

Check out this site:

http://members.cox.net/jmsmith8/

He has some more pics of the Japanese unit, including the Japanese manual mentioned... and a great Jag collection in general!!

 

rayer: rayer: rayer: rayer:

 

Holy shit, that must be just about everything ever made for the jaguar rayer: rayer: rayer:

 

That guy has an amazing Jaguar collection. I just wish he would post screen shots of his beta games and not justthe CDs or Carts.

Yakumo

 

Yeah it would be nice to see the games in motion.

A japanese jaguar is not that rare,I thiink there was about 100,000 produced for the region so with some good hunting you will track one down for maybe 100 dollars at the most.Lee at VGi had some in a couple of years ago and was selling them at around 50 quid,with the AVP packin game,so that is where I get my price from.I think 30,000 yen is a joke of a price,the shop owner should be wearing a black mask.

 

Hehe, he's a good friend of mine -- been doing business with him since, eesh...1998?

He also releases limited edition packs of unreleased prototypes from his collection quite often -- I have the first set of three volumes, actually. All said I think it has prototypes from around 7-10 different games, including several unreleased. It's a 7-CD set. If you're interested, you'll have to beat out the $50-75 bidders on eBay that crop up when someone sells a copy of Vol 1 or 2. Vol. 3 was limited to 100 copies, individually numbered and tracked, so that goes for even more as of late.

The unreleased games I know of offhand (since my copies are at home) are Varuna's Forces (Doom-like shooter) and Black Ice, White Noise (cyberpunk adventure). He's got more unreleased games he's trying to get rights to distribute for -- complete and unreleased games, at that.

Good guy, really. He's just a bit busy between contributing back to the Jaguar community (which I've been in since around '94 online) and his fulltime work -- he doesn't update his site much anymore except when he has new items coming in.