I'd like to sell Sonic Xtreme - suggestions needed

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  1. Nicola

    Nicola Gutsy Member

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    That's right, the in-famous sample on a Mega CD disk with the official boot disk.

    It has been leaked, so I really don't know what price should I ask. And if it's safe to put it on the marketplace. Mostly due to the hate it has generated in the past.

    Any suggestion is gladly appreciated!
     
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  3. Nicola

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    Ya know I've been kicking this back and forth in my head for some time when it comes to unreleased GENUINE gd-r, mega cd-r, whatever discs with games on them.

    Since they are available for free the average Joe likely has 0 interest in paying more than 15 cents for a cd-r to play around with it, and given this is little more than proof of concept/tech demo it is worth even less to average Joe.

    However to people like me who view this as not only a piece worthy of a collection but as a cultural artifact akin to the Gutenburg Bible or the Rosetta Stone it has a value far, far before what average Joe would assign it. How many average Joe's would use the Rosetta Stone for a coffee table before they'd donate it to a museum? Think good, long and hard about selling such an item before you do given most people don't know how to handle such media or think they do and do it poorly.

    I have always found it amusing people did want money for these things to release them and then keep them. The arguement that these things become worthless post release is nonsense. Of course average Joe won't be so willing to pay the high price before release. After release the wealthier average Joe that might have won't now because he really just wanted to play it. However people who truly appreciate these things will pay the high value.

    Because I can get a cheap copy of the Egyptian Book of the Dead doesn't mean some museum won't pay top dollar for an original. Particularly if it has King Tut's blood smeared on it.

    As for your original request, I cannot assign a value to such things. I'd imagine an auction would be favorable to figure this out but then again you don't want to get low-balled because that collector out there with money burning holes in his pocket was on vacation that week.
     
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    Have you tried eBay?

    ;)
     
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  8. Nicola

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    Yes, an auction would be perfect, but on eBay... I would feel a bit unconfortable...
    I woluld like to sell it on the marketplace (main one), but shouldn't I fix a price? I may ask a lot and offer an "obo" option.
     
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    I think I used to argue that point, and I certainly wish it was the case, but the reality is different. Any game beta that's publicly available is worth less; that's distinct from worthless, but the fact remains that value dramatically decreases if something is out in the wild. Unfortunate, but true.

    That said, I'd imagine this particular case is high-profile enough to retain decent value, especially given that it's on branded media. Personally I'd put it up on ebay and post it around, especially on gamesniped.
     
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    Do you really think it's safe to put it on eBay? It has brought a lot of hate in the past...
     
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    He only got about $1200 usd.

    I'd say it's worth about 10% of the original value.

    If it has paperwork, maybe get a letter from the programmer
    stating it is the only real copy...
     
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    What may happen if I put it on eBay?
     
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    I would say ebay is the best bet. But given a 64DD documentation set went for only $75 the other day....
     
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    at least it will be curious to see how it ends.
     
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    I hope I haven't been misunderstood here... I was referring to the Egyptian Book of the Dead (smeared in blood) - That's why I quoted it! It was a (very poor) joke.

    I didn't mean sell the sonic proto on eBay!

    Saying that, as long as it doesn't get pulled it IS the best way to sell it imho. Far more people will see it there.
     
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    It might be hard to get a lot for it. There has been fakes sold on ebay already (though not for a while).
     
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    Well, fakes were watermaked. A tiny piece of code has been changed before the leakage. And I would sell it together with the official first party boot disk the programmer sold me
     
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    $1200 for an empty field tech demo is still a sizable chunk of change to continue owning something that has a value. To say it is worth $X is to say that you had this item appraised and the item itself compared to other items in similiar situations.

    Frankly this tech demo can't hold a candle to Propeller Arena in terms of value or even Bio Hazard 1.5, both of which are actual games as opposed to a tech demo. As such PA>S-X in terms of value. Since we know what PA had donated towards it you can get a rough idea of what a complete game VS a tech demo would garner, even if it is of an unreleased game.

    Blah blah long story short we don't know what it is worth but we know what it could/might/wish it to be worth and know that since releasing it publicly has lowered its value we cannot say how much since all we can really do is speculate about how much it was worth originally.

    I'd say eBay is a safe enough venue if you don't mind getting nickle and dimed by them. Given how high profile this disc is I don't think they could get away with any of their typical bullshit. Then again the guys who make the decisions on this sort of thing might just find the lot of us to be a group of huge nerds who need to move out of their parent's basement. :rolleyes:
     
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    That's what I fear most. There might also be someone still thinking that the original buyer made the fake Ratman and deserves being reported.
    This makes me whish to sell it on ASSEMbler's marketplace...and that's why I was asking what should be a fair asking price.
    I will let all the auctions I have online end and then decide.
     
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