Internet Explorer 9 can do more than download other browsers

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  1. Druidic teacher

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    I'll never use a browser that is advertised in TV...

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    Just saw one ad for IE9 in TV, hence the post. Also, when did dubstep become mainstream?
     
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    A while ago, unfortunately. I don't say unfortunately because it should've remained "cool" and "underground", but because it's shit.
     
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    I work as a graphic designer, writing custom code from the ground up (jQuery, CSS, XHTML, etc). I'm often working with teams of backend developers who code C#, Java, PHP, or CF. Standard development team structures for web development. I don't add IE specific code or browser hacks. I try to avoid it. However many times you have to augment your code to compensate for IE's bullshit. There are many bugs for all versions of IE, including IE8. Here are just some sites which get into some of this:

    http://haslayout.net/css/
    http://positioniseverything.net/explorer.html
     
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    You asked for examples *shrugs*. Just because a UI bug seems simple at first by reading a 1 line description at a site, doesn't mean it cannot become a complex nightmare when working on a large scale project at a corporate company that uses very rigid enterprise development proceedures.

    I don't really have a list of all the bugs I have ever encountered. I don't sit around tracking these things. I tend to fix the problem and move on.

    One bug that I remember running into was the Peek-a-boo bug, aka 'Dissappearing Content'. The site above says that this is only envoked on IE6 but a certain set of conditions set it off in IE8 on a very large project I was working on that was under insanely tight deadlines. (I actually quit the company I was working for because of how this project was managed.) Anyways, content was dissapearing and re-appearing within floated elements when scrolling within the browser. It took forever to nail down what was causing this, find a solution, and test/verify that solution across all DEV and QA servers. Due to the project we were working on, we couldn't have a proper local environment. So we had to keep deploying code to Dev servers and re-test. This was a major pain. In the end, the solution was to envoke haslayout by setting zoom: 1.

    You have to remember, when this anomoly is occurring you are going "wtf, I have never seen this before... vanishing content?!". It is a complete mystery. You wrote compliant front end code, and yet its blowing up in a browser. You have project managers breathing down your neck because "business" (the people at the company who don't understand technology at all) want this live on Production servers ASAP. When issues like this crop up because of IE time and time again, soon IE becomes the bane of one's existance.

    The haslayout problem is a really wacky bug in IE browsers. Its different because as you scroll content dissapears and re-paints on the screen in chunks of varrying degree. Basically a certain set of CSS/HTML conditions cause IE's rendering engine to shit the bed.
     
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