Is gaming culture going to shit?

One, let's not get into the legalities of Let's Plays. I believe that they fall under fair use for the most part, but until it gets tested in court, it is anyone's guess. Two, you typically don't watch a Let's Play to be educated; you watch it for entertainment. How many of you who would gladly wipe them off the face of the earth happen to like MST3K?

 

That's a good point. I love MST3K, but whenever it came out there wasn't a ton of similar programming. The show was unique despite the simple premise. Now it seems anyone with a video game and a camera thinks they're funny enough to entertain the troops. Maybe its over saturation that has jaded me.

 

What kind of comparison is that? MST3K was funny and had actual jokes, if it was just some guy screaming at the movie about rape or whatever you'd have a point.

 

Wherever there are (a lot of) people who can't think for themselves, things will go to shit. Is the object being destroyed what we should feel bad for, or the people that are (generally) unaware of their destruction?

 

LPs that are guides exist, and people here have clearly shown they don't consider fake overreactions as humor. Don't assume things.

quoted for truth

 

Not only that, but MST3K had to pay for the rights to riff whatever movie they were doing (if they didn't already fall under "free-use.")
Not seeing a parallel between to the two, really. Barely even a correlation. MST3K is actually good. Is it because they both have people talking over someone else's work? That's hardly a valid point to make when someone is criticizing LP's for how boring & soulless they are.

 

B-b-but aren't penis jokes also jokes?

 

Why must you make everything so hard?

... That was cheap, I apologise.

 

I often watch videos of games on Youtube just to get an idea of what the game is like before I buy it. I may not even listen to the audio. I used to use emulators to do the same thing, but it's much easier to just look up almost any game on Youtube.

 

I feel that LPers in general are just dumb and a waste of time. I can't see why 30 million people like pewdiepie???!!!!!!! The guy is a idiot with a questionable state of sanity. I think that some of these people don't have a real life at all since they upload around 5 videos every day.

I have found a few of the James and Mike Monday videos interesting like when they played the super Mario wacky worlds prototype, and a obscure game system, but I am not interested with the ones they have done since then.

I find Vinesauce very entertaining, they have a lot of livestreams on twitch, but they put their best highlights on youtube. The best thing they have done is corruptions with various games. SMW, LTTP, HL2, and many others.

The one LPer I have found is the exception for me is Markiplier. He is interesting, truly funny, and very sincere. The other day he just did a livestream where he was selling merchandise and every cent he earned from that he donated to the ALS foundation. His overall main goal is to entertain people with his videos and to raise money towards charity. Sure he does play a couple of games that are popular like minecraft and gmod, but what he plays mostly are indie games. I find these videos worth watching because I have never heard of the game before and they aren't talked about often. Five Nights at Freddy's became popular in such a small span of time because of Markiplier. He was one of the first youtubers to play this game. He is giving these great little known indie games a massive amount of attention through his videos. Even on the greenlight page for FNaF along with the game's trailer it has the videos of Mark playing it. He has such a large following of fans now and he takes the time to interact with some of them. Some fans have even gone to the extent of making games about him and he takes the time to play them and make a video of it. He is very different from the large crowd of Lpers. Markiplier is a true force for good, here's to 3 million subscribers and rising Mark, hopefully you will eventually pass pewdiepie and show the world what the gaming community is really all about.

 

The golden age of REAL Gaming Culture was 1990-2004, magazines.. people and adults played video games. No money making with just some screaming (VLOGS) and actual gameplay vids & demo discs! And oh the PS-Magazines..

Those were the days, and it was more about real life interaction and fun, now it's just through the internet..

 

Putaway the rose tinted glasses. Those things still exist (minus the demo discs), don't pay attention to the dumb ones and find people willing to play locally.

 

The general populous want things that are easy and simple to understand. People don't want to have to think when it comes to entertainment. Its one of the reasons why reality TV is so popular. Also think about the music and movie industry. Whats the most popular shit out there. Its not the ground breaking bands, or movies that really make you think, its the simple shit that doesn't require your brain to do any thought what so ever. This is a issue with society that has been going on for a long time. It just seems recent to many gamers because gaming is more popular now than its ever been before.

These shitty LPs and unboxing will continue to go on, and be popular. You kind of just have to turn a blind eye to it, and try not to let it ruin your hobby.

 

If you want to see some great gamers on youtube check these guys out. All of these people have great videos that are informative and funny.

I wanted to add this list to my previous post but it would have been too long.

https://www.youtube.com/user/PeanutButterGamer

https://www.youtube.com/user/JonTronShow

https://www.youtube.com/user/DYKGaming

https://www.youtube.com/user/SpaceHamsterGames

https://www.youtube.com/user/brutalmoose

https://www.youtube.com/user/DMJared

https://www.youtube.com/user/ThatOneVideoGamer

https://www.youtube.com/user/Caddicarus

https://www.youtube.com/user/MatthewPatrick13

https://www.youtube.com/user/GaijinGoomba

https://www.youtube.com/user/Yuriofwind

https://www.youtube.com/user/Beta64Channel

https://www.youtube.com/user/brentalfloss

https://www.youtube.com/user/SmoothMcGroove

https://www.youtube.com/user/ClanOfTheGrayWolf

https://www.youtube.com/user/rinrygamegame

https://www.youtube.com/user/xtronzzzzz

https://www.youtube.com/user/CKproductions1000

 

Couple of these are awful. Here are the ones that I have issues with:

• JonTron is mostly him saying "egh" and randumb editing.
• DYKG is a disgraceful sack of shit. Lots of the information is false or stolen from places like TCRF.
• YuriofWind doesn't mind using unverified facts. Plus he covers lame creepypastas.
• Beta64 is worse than Yuri. Anyone who takes prototype games seriously stopped using the words alpha and beta.
• SmoothMcGroove was entertaining for a while.

Nothing to say for the rest as I am not familiar with them.

 

a great gaming channel for fighting game enthusiast like myself i recommend Maximilian Dood's channel another good channel would be The Game Theorists next Somecallmejohnny last PBG No over the top fake reactions,they insert a few jokes and explain the game or let the game explain itself or in the game theorists case read deep into a game or game genre and give his thoughts about certain things that can be true about it oh yea almost forgot about DYKgaming great channel

 

DYKG isn't stealing or giving false information if they list their source. http://didyouknowgaming.com/

That is why the segment is called bullshit creepypasta story time.

I can't see how since he goes into more detail than Yuriofwind.

I admit a few times JonTron made me go WTF!!!!! But he has done some good videos recently.
Awhile ago he did one on bootlegged Pokémon games.



I never grew up with Pokémon or care about it much, but when I saw the Vietnamese crystal one, I had to find the rom and see the poor translation for myself.

He has also done a video on some bootlegged Titanic games. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RRA2OrZTiwY

 

And even when they do they still rake in the cash from peoples' endeavors. Where do you think knowledge of proto data came from? I combed the internet and I did not see anyone covering protos besides U64, Sonic Retro (whatever it used to be called), TCRF, Assembler and a couple of much smaller sites. This scene was always ignored by almost everyone, if you look at a video of the original person who found "x" it tends to be watched by less than a few thousand people. U64 and TCRF amassed the hard work from many obscure sites and little known channels into a nice package out of love for this aspect of gaming. Greedy fucks came along and began making money out of that convenient package Have Beta64 or Yuri contributed to any of these sites? I watched DYKG's Zelda Part 1 and was disgusted by how there is no mention of who found what they talked about, it's not even in the description. I had seen them do something similar on their site before so I avoid clicking their vids or vising their page (every time you do this they make money). I imagine lots of their content is on game development, but even if it is not other places they pull from are getting shafted. DYKG has millions of views in addition to a shit ton of subs, and that's a lot of money. Do any of the sites DYKG uses get one cent?!?

These three are not the only ones, but they are the biggest. Seeing the primary sources not get any attention pisses me off. I might be wrong about Beta64 being worse than Yuri but that's because I quit watching both of them quickly after seeing how lackluster they are. The proto videos that do get watched usually have gimmicks in them. DYKG used internet celebrities. To make matters worse they don't bother to fact check. Watch Beta64's coverage of SSB. He claims it started on the SNES, gets the creator's name wrong and that some characters were cut. I've read EVERYTHING available on the development of the game, and know what's bullshit. To this day there are STILL people regurgitating all the old proto OoT rumors, and for some reason they still attract crowds. The way people should write about protos should be professional. Leave out anything that you can't absolutely prove. Isn't the truth much more interesting? This is a brilliant example, everything can be traced to an official interview or the game's data. Because of this you can guarantee anything left out of it is bullshit. (Yes it is missing some things from the other TCRF articles, but it is because it isn't finished yet.) http://tcrf.net/User:GlitterBerri/Prerelease:The_Legend_of_Zelda:_Ocarina_of_Time

Lastly, you may wonder why I crusade so much against the build labels. People misuse the fuck out of them. A game with a barely made game engine? Must be a beta. No, these terms have much more rigorous definitions. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Software_release_life_cycle Regardless of whether this changes or not, they are not really concrete enough to avoid fights over semantics. I've even seen developers label their games wrong. What you can't argue is when something is a prototype.

 

Can you stick to complaining about one topic at a time? If you want to talk about how real world SDLC works (hint: it's not a simple flowchart with clear labels), start a different thread please.

 

But it further illustrates how incompetent the people I'm attacking are. Whether I COMPLETELY understand SDLC or not is irrelevant because I am arguing against everyone calling everything a beta (unless you think that is more correct). You came to a thread full of complaining and began to complain about the complaining.