Is it possible to build your own Broadband Adapter?

Discussion in 'Sega Dreamcast Development and Research' started by Fudge, Nov 5, 2012.

  1. atreyu187

    atreyu187 Intrepid Member

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    PSO and Quake 3 are supported by the BBA. Less then 20 games total ever supported the BBA even by Sega. The modem however supports six games with room for a heck of a lot more as there were over 100games supporting the modem. So yes the BBA is very limited in what you can do with it.
     
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    Dreamcastnews Gutsy Member

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    Could anyone do the DC laser thing for me if I paid some gold?
     
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    atreyu187 Intrepid Member

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    Or just buy a working laser off eBay for $12 it is the PC laser not the actual Sega one and is an easy install.
     
  5. sonicdude10

    sonicdude10 So long AG and thanks for all the fish!

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    How did this thread go from discussing the possibility of a clone BBA to replacing the GD-ROM laser? WTF man???
     
  6. CodeAsm

    CodeAsm ohci_write: Bad offset 30

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    It can go back, lets try:
    Wich pci card do we need? or at least with realtec chipset is related to Realtek 8139? can I get a pci card and do simply the tricks this jpn dude did ? also add a large laser to engrave "Genuine BBA" :p
     
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    Bad_Ad84 The Tick

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    Relax, topics change during conversation. Its normal.
     
  8. cybdyn

    cybdyn Embedded developer (MCU & FPGA)

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    the question was "IS IT POSSIBLE...?" - my point is "Yes, it's possible"))
     
  9. sonicdude10

    sonicdude10 So long AG and thanks for all the fish!

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    I meant that comment as a joke people...
    I know topics change subjects. I'm guilty of helping that happen over in the Sega side. It happened here.

    Back on subject.
    I too am wondering what PCI cards can be used to imitate a phone line for the Dreamcast over a broadband ethernet connection. I have a PC with ethernet and PCI slots I don't mind setting up to run this. I was planning on setting it up as a storage server for 24-7 duty cycle anyways. Don't mind having it pull second duty as a phone line emulator if that's possible with PCI cards. I can run whatever OS is needed on it.
     
  10. Dreamcastnews

    Dreamcastnews Gutsy Member

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    So with a little work we can get a BBA adaptor although by all accounts it's best to work around the modem?
     
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    kuji Spirited Member

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    Dang it's been a long time since I seen that Japanese replica of the BBA adapter. I have a USA BBA adapter I got for free, but I'm probably never gonna sell it.
     
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    -=FamilyGuy=- Site Supporter 2049

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    The lan adapter is the only completely working clone he designed. Not even close for the BBA. Lan adaptor ain't that usefull for playing online.
     
  13. sonicdude10

    sonicdude10 So long AG and thanks for all the fish!

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    I have a Magic Jack setup. Any hope of using this since my Dreamcast has a modem?
    I doubt it but thought I'd ask...
     
  14. defor

    defor Intrepid Member

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    I hate to say this, but a lot of projects like this are hampered by the end cost of the product.
    Designing and implementing fcpga replacements for the gdrom and lan adapter are more that possible, but making them affordable to more than 5% of the people asking for this is nearly impossible due to the costs of production and development, and relatively low interest.

    so- if you're interested in this, maybe you should look at exactly how much it would cost to produce these magical devices, not simply buy chinese knockoffs at 1/50 the price using inferior fabrication and stolen designs (see cloned modchips), and compare that to the cost of a BBN or a few spare dreamcasts to salvage laser assemblies from for the time being. It's a sad state of affairs, but the only way to work this out that I can see would be some kickstarter-styled affair.
     
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    sonicdude10 So long AG and thanks for all the fish!

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    You hear this people?
    We need these things cloned PRONTO!
    Get it on Kickstarter!
    I'll gladly donate a butt-load of money!
     
  16. -=FamilyGuy=-

    -=FamilyGuy=- Site Supporter 2049

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    Magic jack doesn't works with dial-up modems, and I don't like the attitude people have toward this kind of stuff. It's not like it was an easy job and people were lazy not to do it.
     
  17. defor

    defor Intrepid Member

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    Exactly...
    one of the biggest things to take note of here is that time=money.

    sure, a pcb might cost a minimal amount to fabricate, but 1) usually a project that a single individual develops will be SOLD, usually taking into account the effort involved.
    2) say a cloned device is released at a high price point to good contributors to the project, etc. If there's a market, the clones will be made and sold in high quantity at minimal cost as the actual investment to clone a device is FAR lower than initial development.

    Steps would have to be made to combat cloning, or somehow it would have to be priced right such that the original developer doesn't get stuck with excess stock he can never sell to cover initial costs and effort, and not make end users just figure that they should wait till the price goes down and they can order them from divineo or fine other importers of bootleg/cloned gaming upgrades and mods.


    Pretty sure that it kinda needs to work the other way around.. people WITH product/project development plans and the technical expertise to accomplish the project need to create a kickstarter campaign that takes into account what it's going to cost and reasonable development plans/proof of concept.
     
  18. atreyu187

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    Yes Magic Jack has been tried it doesn't "dial" to make the modem initialize but if you are so inclined it can be done for free using Linux and networking the modem into your PC. It isn't as hard as the guide makes it seem, the guide is just really through. Only reason I didn't stick with the PC>DC setup was the fact the using the TLS/Netopia I could network three 56k modems at once for all my DC's and I am not contained to just the one by my laptop when I want to game online.
     
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    Personaly before seeing a Clone of a BBA i would prefer to actualy see more reverse engeniring from the server side of games, most of that is preaty much impossible but PSO proved otherwise so lets try to revive the online services first before going to the BBA clone route. In my view if the online services increse then the audience will increase therefore the BBA market would be much better to create a clone.
     
  20. atreyu187

    atreyu187 Intrepid Member

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    Why worry about the BBA side? Only maybe 10 games total supported the BBA while well over 100 supported the modem.
     
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