Is Japan a dying nation?

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  1. Giel

    Giel Intrepid Member

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    A rather eyecatching title from the BBC, but nevertheless interesting.

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/worldtonight/2009/09/is_japan_a_dying_nation.html

    Combined with some other facts taken from Dannychoo:

    Not a surprise to most I assume, but quite shocking nevertheless.
     
  2. madhatter256

    madhatter256 Illustrious Member

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    Did that dickhead reporter (he really looks like one lol) look into single mother pupulations? I'm sure that must be increasing.... It is in those other countries he mentioned...

    I laughed reading that.
     
  3. graciano1337

    graciano1337 Milk Bar

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    Is it really that bad? Or is this story just being spun?
     
  4. GaijinPunch

    GaijinPunch Lemon Party Organizer and Promoter

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    I can tell you exactly why right now: It's fucking expensive. If you have 2 kids, you are almost forced to move out of the city, giving the bread winner of the family a 90 minute nut to butt commute to work daily.

    Uh, no. If anything it's the other way around. In my experience, the only attractive signle women in their early 30's and up are married to their career.
     
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  5. graphique

    graphique Enthusiastic Member

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    It's worse. A simple extrapolation shows that if the population continues to decrease at this rate, by the year 2300 Japan's population will be negative 6.5 million. That's right - it will be populated by legions of the undead!

    But I think it's somewhat more likely that as Japan continues to undergo stress from an aging population, it'll adapt in various ways, which might include legal, technological, and cultural changes, until a new equilibrium is reached. Of course that's not as exciting as proclaiming a "dying nation". Our journalists at work!
     
  6. c_rpg

    c_rpg Spirited Member

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    It's simple: kill the old folks.
    No seriously, this is true for alot of countries. Because having 8 children was common 40 years ago and having none is common now, you just know that the young people won't be able to support the elderly. This is especially so in countries which give out high pensions. Plus the fact that people are growing older rapidly is also an important factor.

    I once saw statistics which showed the age groups of the population in London. The youngest groups were mostly filled by non-UK born residents (e.g. Pakistani, Indian). That is the only solution to the problem. But then again Japan is reluctant to let in any foreigners.

    Another problem is that in some countries the immigrants don't have to work. In Europe most countries provide financial support for non working people.
     
  7. GaijinPunch

    GaijinPunch Lemon Party Organizer and Promoter

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    Don't forget the fact that the average lifespan is getting longer, and apparently robotics will play a huge factor in the decades to come. Let's not who popularized the robot... along w/ the tentacle rape monster.
     
  8. Jamtex

    Jamtex Adult Orientated Mahjong Connoisseur

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    That's America's fault....
     
  9. GaijinPunch

    GaijinPunch Lemon Party Organizer and Promoter

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    As Bruno says, "The pot is calling the kettle black"
     
  10. Jamtex

    Jamtex Adult Orientated Mahjong Connoisseur

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    Who is Bruno and who the hell nowdays uses cast iron kettles and pots? Stupid phrase :110:
     
  11. GaijinPunch

    GaijinPunch Lemon Party Organizer and Promoter

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    It's funnier when he's wearing his all leather outfit, saying it to some pretentious Euro trash.
     
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    Druidic teacher Officer at Arms

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  13. GodofHardcore

    GodofHardcore Paragon of the Forum *

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    The Japan I know and love is dead
     
  14. Bramsworth

    Bramsworth Well Known Member

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    Even though you've probably never been there and basing that off of their gaming industry may I presume?

    Yeah, that makes them dead alright...
     
  15. GodofHardcore

    GodofHardcore Paragon of the Forum *

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    I again state THE JAPAN I KNOW AND LOVE IS LONG DEAD
     
  16. ave

    ave JAMMA compatible

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    So what Japan do you know and love then? The Tokugawa era?
     
  17. GodofHardcore

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    Meiji Era:110::110:
     
  18. arnoldlayne

    arnoldlayne Resolute Member

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    Um... the populations of most developed countries are decreasing, the only one in Europe (as an example) that is actually static is England due to the high rate of teenage pregnancies.

    Nothing new... The baby boom was over a long time ago, coupled with the higher cost of living it doesn't make sense to have big famililes anymore. Children don't stay at home and look after the old folk anymore like they used to either... 'family' doesn't mean so much.

    Of course, we must not forget that undevelopled nations do have spiraling populations and - as they make up much more land-mass and population than the developed world, it IS still going to be a problem down the line but I guess their gain may (eventually) balance out our loss...?
     
  19. GodofHardcore

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    isn't that a bit too pessimistic?
     
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