Is this a Prototype Cart ????

Discussion in 'Rare and Obscure Gaming' started by brendand, Mar 29, 2012.

  1. HEX1GON

    HEX1GON FREEZE! Scumbag

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    Seems like a retail flash to me... Might have to play through the game to really tell though..
     
  2. brendand

    brendand Fiery Member

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    Ok so how do i find the debug thing ?? =P

    i will try play this all night tonight any strange errors or bugs be will be mentioned
     
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  3. ThetaSigma

    ThetaSigma Robust Member

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    I am loving this thread. As said, Try pressing different combinations of buttons to see if there is a debug menu, and compare to a retail rom. Good luck mate :p

    Just once I would like to find a dev item at carpark markets or something XD
     
  4. ASSEMbler

    ASSEMbler Administrator Staff Member

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    Try by pressing ab and start, or other combos.
     
  5. brendand

    brendand Fiery Member

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    thetasigma dont give up i found this cart in a pawn shop =D

    i am unsure if it has a debug menu or not i tried a few variations of A,B start, select but its always possible i hit the wrong combinations so this is one of 3 things as far as i am concerned its either a Retail flash , a Pre release copy of the game due to the year on the cart the Aus and USA retail versions came late 2000 or a Proto im going to compare it to the retail rom later and any early differences will be mentioned perhaps pictures will be taken if i find a major bug

    ok i am down to pre release and Retail flash on dev card but how on earth did the game get on the cart ? and why did the cart come out the exact same year as pokemon gold ? D: this thing confuses me a bit with that

    Just looked at the opening and stuff is it normal for ROMs to be slower then Actual hardware ?? i notice the opening is slower on the ROM
     
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  6. Denryu

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    Chances are it was just a review copy for a magazine before the game was produced on retail carts.
    You should probably still check if it has the same checksum as the retail binary image, though. There may still be hidden but disabled debug functions.
     
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  7. ASSEMbler

    ASSEMbler Administrator Staff Member

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    Only way to know for sure is to dump it and compare romsize.
     
  8. Denryu

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    But rom size can match between versions. It's best to compare checksums.
     
  9. brendand

    brendand Fiery Member

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    Ok so how do i go about finding out the ROM size and Checksum ? =p i simply have no idea how to get this kind of info from a cart lol
     
  10. Decapicitated

    Decapicitated Site Supporter 2011-13 Lara Croft

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    You need additional tools to dump the data from the cart. Then you get the checksum of that and compare it to a retail rom of the same game to see if it is the same or not.
     
  11. Denryu

    Denryu マスコット

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    You can use HxD to calculate the checksums.
    ROM size doesn't matter much as they're always padded with 0x00 or 0xFF to the next 2^x unless trimmed.
     
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  12. billcosbymon

    billcosbymon Guru Meditation Error

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    You could dump it by using a transferer II by EMS I'm pretty sure.
     
  13. DefectX11

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    How exciting! I'm waiting to see what he's got here!
    Plus I guess I now know the value of a dev cart. Wow, I've got to keep watch for those..
     
  14. brendand

    brendand Fiery Member

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    Do the tools cost much ? i seriously have not got a clue about where to start looking or prices ^^
     
  15. InsaneNutter

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    The Transferer 2 was about £30 when i got mine, the site I got it from (consolegoods.co.uk) doesn't look to sell them anymore though. I'm sure someone here will know alternate sites to buy stuff like that from though.

    If your in the UK i would happily dump it for you if you have no luck finding one, I need an excuse to use my
    Transferer again.
     
  16. billcosbymon

    billcosbymon Guru Meditation Error

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    The only place where I could find one is directly from the manufacturer.
    The Link:Transferer II
     
  17. brendand

    brendand Fiery Member

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    ok i see that thing now 2 potential problems for me is that i have a Vista computer and nothing else D: so if the software does not support my laptop i wont be able to fix it myself :s and the other issue is my laptop has a 15 pin port and that looks bigger so i may need some sort of cable that goes from my laptop to the Transferers cable if that will work does the transferer only have the usb and port thing ?? or does it have another connection the more connections it has the worse it gets for me as i dont have a desktop computer
     
  18. ASSEMbler

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    Can't you dump with some of the cheat devices? I remember some can.
     
  19. Denryu

    Denryu マスコット

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    Wasn't dumping only working with the N64 ones? I don't remember any Game Boy cheat device that would be able to do so.

    Yes, you will need a historic printer port (LPT) with an older operating system (pre vista for sure) to get the old Game Boy tools and devices working. Remember all this was released when everyone was still using Windows 98. USB was also still brand new and not widely used yet.
     
  20. brendand

    brendand Fiery Member

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    D: ugh i am so out of luck now ........ i really dont know anyone except one person who has a XP computer ??? can this be done on that ??? it might have the port i am not sure
     
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