JP Sega Saturn: Black screen but power

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  1. PIXeL92

    PIXeL92 Spirited Member

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    Hey guys so a few months back I got a jap Saturn and I replaced the PSU on it and it worked fine for a while but I went to use it the other day and all I get is a black screen.

    It powers and the tv sees it as the screen starts to flicker a little. The CD doesn't spin up either

    Something odd that did happen a while back was it did boot and it had the logo screen but it then washed out and went black.

    I have taken a picture of it and what assume is a mod chip. (Will attach when on PC and not phone.)

    All help appreciated.

    Cheers
     
  2. synrgy87

    synrgy87 Well Known Member

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    when you replaced the PSU was the mod chip wired up to the old one? eg there's not a loose wire flapping around in there somewhere?

    also may just be a contact issue between the power board and the motherboard pins strip it down give the pins a clean make sure nothing is shorting and put it back together. there was a thread recently regarding a component in the power supply dying and causing issues also, although i cant seem to find it now, my search-fu is weak
     
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    Hey mate,
    The only cable on the mod chip goes to the board the CD reader is on. I will strip it down tonight, it is probably something patently obvious and I am missing it.

    I did have a search on the forum and found a few threads and all I saw was replace the battery.

    Cheers
     
  4. MaxWar

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    Maybe your modchip borked?

    3 years ago I bought and installed a modchip from Racketboy in my saturn. It worked for less than a week then the console crashed when I was playing it and it would not work anymore. Black screen + Cd would not spin. Just like yours.

    I removed the mod chip and the console worked. I tried reinstalling it and the problem started again. Racketboy then sent me a second chip which works to this day.
     
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    Did the Japanese machine have a 5-pin power supply?

    If so, it was presumably VA5 or below, and had 3.3V on pin 3 - if you put a PSU from a VA6+ PAL machine into it, then you will apply 5V to the 3.3V logic supply and blow the main board up...
     
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    Mine is a VA5 and it is 5 Pin.

    To remove the mod chip do I just pull out the two ribbon cables connected to the chip and then bridge the gap with the longer length the was attached to the mod chip ? It connects to the CD motherboard area and then the area to the right of the reset button.
     
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    yes, longer cable in place of the shorter ribbon.

    Also, do not power it up while its like in your picture - the bottom of the chip will short on the metal casing.
     
  9. MaxWar

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    Dude there are solder splatters all over that thing o_o
    That can't be a good sign, a loose debris like this could just fall off on the board and short something out.
    ( edit : unless this is corrosion that looks like solder? )

    As for the modchip this is not the same kind of modchip that I used so cannot tell how to properly uninstall it.
     
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    Didnt even look at the solder splatter, which is exactly what it looks like.
     
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    That was all cleaned out when I had it apart, this is how it was when I got it.

    There was no loose debry and it booted fine for a few months I will check over it again.

    Cheers for the help guys.
     
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    looks like someone was just flicking their soldering iron off onto it, not a good sign.
     
  13. APE

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    ^agreed. One of those could've moved into a spot you don't want it and shorted a part to death.
     
  14. bart_simpson

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    4 bad 220uf 6.3v caps near the cd switch causes a black screen.
     
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    If I had to guess those would be for the RGB lines.
     
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    well i am sure of the fault as i replaced them part's when i had a black screen when i used to break Saturn when i was learning a good few years ago.
     
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    Just because it fixed your console, doesnt mean it will fix all other consoles.

    Multiple different faults can cause a black screen.
     
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    We still haven't heard back from OP. I was curious what would happen when he uninstalled the Mod Chip.
     
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