Just a few proposals (unmoderated)

Discussion in 'Site Help and Suggestions' started by Mr. Casual, Nov 24, 2007.

  1. port187

    port187 Serial Chiller

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    lol you guys have too much issue's :) kiss and make up and lets continue talking about VG's!

    OT: if you decide to go in to political matters or flame threads (a little like me and this thread) you know what you are getting in to and must be prepared to take some hits w/o having hard feelings about it, thats why I usually don't like to respond to offtopic stuff and if I do then I accept any flame or dislike of my optinion as a healty discussion or part of the game (yes even when it comes down to low down cursing/insulting as we are all different and have different ways that we respond to stuff) and this tells me enough about somebody, I can then choose to ignore this person in future discussions or do some flaming myself as this can be fun sometimes :)
     
  2. WolverineDK

    WolverineDK music lover

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    port187: AWS and I have had a turbulent "relationship". And the peace between him and I are an issue I will not go into details with. But the peace is fragile, and it has to be understood by him and I. And if I violate certain unwritten rules, then there will be a bad war between him and I. And I don´t want that war again, and I believe he doesn´t want either. That is why I touch some subjects , he then will go in and point a finger and say very politely, that past is past. And he will not want a new "war". And neither will I. That is why when I use something as an example, I reply to his comment about the issue. When he feels that his toes are getting stepped on. So that is it about that, but it just looks like Mr. Casual doesn´t get it completely, that he should stop walking in the very footsteps of an old war, which is over in my mind.
     
  3. the_steadster

    the_steadster Site Soldier

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    Politics etc. are discussed in OT pretty much exclusively. If you don't like what is being said, then stay out of OT - Personally, I find it very interesting to see other peoples views, particularly when they're very different to mine.
     
  4. ASSEMbler

    ASSEMbler Administrator Staff Member

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    A wild steadster appears!

    You take 50 damage!

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    Hit the nail on the head
     
  5. Parris

    Parris I'm only here to observe...

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    Dude, you are speaking to yourself again! ;-)

    I posted and suddenly a million other posts appeared again! Damn, this keeps happening to me despite dumping cache etc. Grrrr! Ignore this post, my comment is deleted as frankly this whole thing has moved on a pace.... continue!
     
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  6. PhreQuencYViii

    PhreQuencYViii Champion of the Forum

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    ASSEMbler is taking in light...
     
  7. Taemos

    Taemos Officer at Arms

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    This is an internet forum and there are bound to be idiots. Ignoring them is unfortunately the best solution.

    I agree with most of what you said, though.
     
  8. Mr. Casual

    Mr. Casual Champion of the Forum

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    I was only poking fun at you earlier because I think you overreacted just a BIT too much at Barcode's recent posts.

    Come on, seriously. Telling someone to shove their attitude up their ass because you don't agree with it? Not exactly Civil.:rolleyes:

    I never said that. I think someone in your position should be a little more diplomatic, that's all.

    And yes, I've done tons of ignoring of posts. I don't mind opinions, but when they're asserted as fact and affect the decisions made in who is moderator or who is not, however, it gets on my nerves. I'm not saying you should start going around willy nilly picking American moderators to appease anyone, but saying things like "I'm only going to choose UK members to be moderators because they are more level headed than their American counterparts" is the kind of thing that would make people want to keep clear of the community.

    Your mind might have changed since you posted that, but when I saw you post it again when you said "Uk members are more level headed because they let a maniac like Bush in power" just makes me think you believe it even more. You do realize that the election was nearly half and half? That you yourself must not be "level headed" for not assassinating George Bush already?:rolleyes: 9/11 was like Pearl Harbor 2, and while I think we should be back by now, we got rid of some pretty evil men. You never know, one of them might have been the next Hitler.

    I don't think I can say anything to keep anyone here from still doing something like posting a picture of a Redneck with the macro "99% of America" with 30 replies from everyone going "OMG THAT IS SOOO TRUE!" I could just as easily post an image about any other country, but I bet my post would be considered "Trolling" when I'm not making fun of America.

    What if someone got Chastized for saying "Japan is fucked up?" Oh wait.

    What if someone got Chastized for saying "America is fucked up?" I've never seen it here, ever. You know, its kinda funny when someone says a Country is fucked up because they are into Guro, lolicon, Cannibal themed restaraunts, and is called an "Anti-Normal" person for think so, when I wouldn't want to be anywhere NEAR the person who thinks that stuff is normal instinctively, without being desensitized to it. You say America is fucked up though, and you get tons of people agreeing with you.

    Here is the too long; Didn't read version of what I typed -

    I think this place is biased. VERY biased. And might I add, its funny and ironic how people who are critical of the US and its Govt. can't even have a Democratic forum.:lol:
     
  9. Yakumo

    Yakumo Pillar of the Community *****

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    maybe people say America is fucked up because about 80% of the dumb arse shit we hear about comes from the states (You can thank the internet for that and YouTube for world wide publicity of dumb teenage idiots being "cool") Yeah, we all know not all Americans are the same. I have quite a few friends who are American. In fact I used to visit ASSEMbler's very own JapanGames.com (Eric) quite a bit before the baby was born.

    We love to take the piss out off our own and each others countries. I'm British but I don't ever say the UK is a perfect land. I live in Japan but I constantly slag it for thinks I don't like or maybe understand. That's the way of life. People will always choose something to focus their complaints about.

    Yakumo
     
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  10. Mr. Casual

    Mr. Casual Champion of the Forum

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    Well, its reassuring to actually hear it for a change.

    I agree on the Youtube part, and by far, its got to be the worst place for comments anywhere. You see more intelligent posts on fucking 4chan. I think a lot of it is because of the kiddos on the site though. Youtube, that is.

    Can't we just agree that stupid people and stupid kids are everywhere? We probably have a larger concentration of idiots mainly because our Country is so fricken big, but whatever.
     
  11. Parris

    Parris I'm only here to observe...

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    I personally think things have improved a great deal. There was a time not so long ago that threads were locked just as any debate became interesting. There is also greater policing of threads that just go beyond common decency.

    Who said we all had to agree with one another? Surely, like many others have pointed out, AG is a meeting point for those who share common interests in gaming? That doesn't however mean that we all have a blank canvas of opinions in other areas.

    I've learnt a lot about cultural differences. It does make you take a longer look at your own culture too, as without it you can begin to live in a bubble! AG is NOT however the only place anyone should form opinions or examine any culture - it's a snap shot and no more!

    Nobody has ever suggested that we should all completely agree and get along 100% of the time and some of the conversations, however heated on here have been really interesting. Some not so! I've gotten to know a few people on AG as a direct result of having a differing opinion from them and falling into discussion. In one instance my opinion was changed and I realised what I had originally written was probably offensive bullshit (GP take a bow!) despite not intending it to be.

    There are a couple of posters, one of whom I think Mr. Casual and I agree upon (no names mentioned) who's participation is questionable at best, down right bizarre at other points and incredibly immature most of the time. In my mind some of the comments this particular poster has made suggested he needs professional help!

    Would I go as far a banning this poster? I don't know, that's not my job thank goodness and I would hate to think he was witch hunted out.

    It's great to have the 'ignore' option, which I have utilised only a couple of times, but it works!

    Some topics (and I have participated) do come up time & time again because people have strong views or diverging opinions on those issues. Cultural differences do exist, religious opinions come into play, ethical questions can often be examined, morality raises it's head and so on so forth.

    Surely AG is a better place for it, especially as it is generally limited to the ''Off Topic'' area meaning you can select whether to view, ignore or debate. Sometimes it's just good for a laugh, seeing what other people argue about :lol:
     
  12. Mr. Casual

    Mr. Casual Champion of the Forum

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    Oh, I could tell you stories of what people argue about on other gaming forums. Its downright ridiculous.

    I remember one time there was an argument over whether the spiral ramp in the Tower in Shadow of the Colossus was either:

    A) A spiral ramp

    or

    B) A spiral Staircase

    The worst part is, I got involved.:lol:
     
  13. WolverineDK

    WolverineDK music lover

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    Mr. Casual: the poking fun part isn´t funny about the gay/non gay issue. And it has never been, and yes my statement to Barc0de about shoving things up somewhere where the sun don´t shine was extreme . Then it doesn´t mean and justify that you should make it your mission of "poking fun" with me about the issue. Since it isn´t fun, and never has been. So please stop making fun of it. But well, anyway I hope it is the last of it. I will hear from the almost ancient issue, about who is gay and whatnot.
     
  14. Parris

    Parris I'm only here to observe...

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    I have the same thing regarding the almost monthly gun debate - my view is that now almost everyone knows what I think, so therefore I don't ever need to write it again.

    So, was it a spiral ramp or was it a staircase? lol

    WDK: I saw the comment re shoving items up rectums and frankly I thought "Good GOD!" - you have a rather interesting turn of phrase young sir!
     
  15. diddydonn

    diddydonn Familiar Face

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    I was trying to think of something witty and sophisticated to say to add to this discussion, but alas my brain has melted into a steamy pile of goop!

    But cant we all get along and give each other non-gay hugs? (no offense intended WolvieDK)

    Yeah there are some arseholes in here, but if they get on my tits i simply ignore them, after all its only a forum, i can walk away and stare at boobs instead, much more productive

    But on the flip side there are some genuinely nice people on here. for which i am truly honored to have met, and who have been great helping me through the past few weeks with my depression amongst other things

    True this is a gaming community, but i think it would be a very sad day if the only thing discussed on here was gaming and nothing else,

    Being at home most of the time, and spending most of it in front of the computer to work can be boring as hell, but i do come on here most days, partially for the gaming /dev side, but also to break up the monotony and read the off topic bits and bobs that people post

    Anyways, im not sure where im heading with this, or even if what i have wrote makes sense, but as i said, its only a forum, i can leave whenever i want and speak to who i want, if someone is being a dick and chatting up 10yr olds then thats their problem, not mine, yeah i could say something, but most of the time i bite my tongue and thing balls to it
     
  16. Mr. Casual

    Mr. Casual Champion of the Forum

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    I had the last word when I posted a youtube video showing that there were no actual steps on the ramp, so it was a spiral ramp.

    There was some other crap going on in that thread, with one of the posters acting like Cliff Clavin from Cheers. You know the "Know it all, who doesn't actually know it all".:katamari:

    Yes, I'm a nerd for life.:nod:
     
  17. port187

    port187 Serial Chiller

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    A Dutch saying:

    The highest trees catch the most wind :)
     
  18. ServiceGames

    ServiceGames Heretic Extraordinaire

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    Thanks for the somewhat lengthy yet concise post Parris. I think it summed up my thoughts as well.

    I personally don't have to much of a problem with the OT and political threads as they give me the opportunity to look into the background of my fellow posters... If and when I so choose.

    However, I do take issue when snide comments and remarks are interjected into casual conversation topics. I am aware that these occurences are generally just misunderstandings caused by cultural barriers, differences in upbringing and at times ignorance. If perhaps people would think for a few minutes and realize that they are in fact largely among friends and that we do not infact all share the same opinions, maybe we could refrain from all of the idiotic 'factpinions' and subsequent high-fiving. You may hate conservatives or vegans or women or whatever you please, but do yourself a favor and realize that you may just be conversing with some at this very moment.

    I've said it before and I am sure that I shall say it again.. There are often times when a non-native english speaker will make a post that is a bit difficult to understand and we all sit back and read it a few times just trying to get to their point. If we can extend this courtesy to someone just because there is a language barrier, perhaps we ought to extend the same to each and every post that we read. I would hope that we would all be a bit more careful with what we write and maybe just re-read a post or two before we dive in with fists flailing.

    -ServiceGames-
     
  19. opethfan

    opethfan Dauntless Member

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    "I may not agree with what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it." - Evelyn Beatrice Hall, commonly attributed to Voltaire.

    Yes, we all view things differently and we're all different people. Our opinions are all different and the way we do things is different. That doesn't mean any of us are wrong, it just means that we're unique. Nothing in life is binary, yes or no.

    The point I'm trying to make is that we are people, even if you can't see us or directly hear us through your ethernet cable, we are still here, and we still have our opinions. No one wants to be a robot, posting only boring numbers and facts. We should all have a relative degree of freedom to express ourselves on what we like, what we don't and everything in between. What members have to remember is that the posts made are still by people, and that just because it's on the internet, doesn't mean it's not real. Talk to one another as if you're at a dinner party or barbeque. Converse, disagree and debate, but for the love of God don't start shouting because one of us likes (blank) and you don't.

    The reason why politics comes up so much is because it is so intregal to our lives, and we feel strongly about the world around us and how it affects us in our everyday doings. In this modern age, we have access to so much information, knowledge of so much injustice that we have to release how it feels to our fellow men and women. Only a very cold hearted person could see all that's happening around the world, or even on their front doorstep and not feel a need to tell someone else how they feel, learn their opinion and voice their own.

    So play along kids, no mean words to each other, and yes, we all have our preconceptions and stereotypes, and most of us don't try to offend others, sometimes it just happens.

    Now excuse me as I ride my polar bear home to my igloo.
     
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